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Old 11-10-2023, 10:50 PM   #261
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I actually thought those tweets read like drunk posts - but I don't use social media so maybe that's just how people communicate on X?
Maybe they thought they had something lined up earlier trade-wise (Sec214's posts in the other thread) then it fell apart (according to his follow up) and the agent was growing frustrated with the lack of movement, had a couple too many and got behind the keyboard?
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Old 11-10-2023, 10:50 PM   #262
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Agents should be penalized for chatter like that.
And Weekes, as an employee of NHL Network, for carrying water for the Leafs. Let one of their local shills do this.
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Old 11-10-2023, 10:53 PM   #263
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I don't buy into the idea that a player making it public that he wants a trade suddenly makes it harder for the GM to get a good return for them. I still remember after the Flames traded Phaneuf for a bunch of spare parts hearing about other GMs saying they didn't even know he was available and they would have given more for him.
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Old 11-10-2023, 10:54 PM   #264
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It doesn't make sense why the agent would say this. Whatever is the case, Zadorov needs new representation. I think his agent screwed him
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Old 11-10-2023, 10:55 PM   #265
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I don't think Zadorov will be playing 25 mins a night anywhere...just me though

probably get similar minutes to what he does now
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Old 11-10-2023, 10:58 PM   #266
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Makes me like him even more, can' blame a guy for not wanting to rebuild when you want to win. If hes the guy to kick off the rebuild hell ya, can't wait to hear what he says in the future about his time with the flames.

I bet they could garner a bidding war

Let the trades begin!
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Old 11-10-2023, 11:00 PM   #267
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Send him to San Jose.
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Old 11-10-2023, 11:03 PM   #268
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I love Z, and I think this team is WAY too soft as is, but I don't think he is a really decent top 4 defencemen. I think he can fill-in for stretches, but he isn't a top 4 D. I will be sad to see him go - he checks off quite a lot of boxes for this team - but he is an investment that has unquestionably paid-off handsomely in Calgary, and the Flames should cash-in this investment and re-invest it.


I do dislike that his agent made it public right away. I would understand if he asked for a trade quietly in the off-season, and they were left in limbo with not trade and no contract up to this point. You keep trade requests in-house until you feel that you are not being taken seriously.


Outside from that, I wish him well and a tonne of success wherever he lands, hopefully out east somewhere. I must say, his agent does have great timing with the Toronto-Montreal swing.



I think the Flames should rebuild, and thought he is young enough to remain on the team, I also do believe that he will get a haul to help kickstart that rebuild.
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Old 11-10-2023, 11:04 PM   #269
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Source: Nikita Zadorov would welcome a trade to any organization that isn't completely out to lunch and full of players who are in "I don't give a f***, I'm getting paid" mode.
But his agent said he wanted to go to the Leafs...
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Old 11-10-2023, 11:08 PM   #270
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It doesn't make sense why the agent would say this. Whatever is the case, Zadorov needs new representation. I think his agent screwed him
A couple of weeks ago the Flames were trying hard to extend Lindholm and Hanafin to long extensions based on a decent preseason. Last week they put all negotiations on hold because of an early season losing skid. Apparently they are scouring the market to try and find a player thst could get Huberdeau going.

The Flames are letting the current steer the ship and they are stuck in a whirlpool. They don't have a consistent direction.

If your a lower priority signing do you really want to wait while they figure things out? Zadorov wants a contract or a trade to set him up for his big payday. This helps push Conroy into action and maybe bumps Zadorov up the priority list.
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Old 11-10-2023, 11:09 PM   #271
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A couple of things:

If Zadorov is looking to put together a resume for next season, he shouldn't assume he will get a bunch more playing time somewhere else. Is he top 4 on any serious contenders?

I doubt Conroy is ready to pull the plug on the season. I'm sure he wants a good draft pick but I'd expect some NHL depth coming back for the back end too. Assuming the deal happens quickly.
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Old 11-10-2023, 11:15 PM   #272
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I was saying all along that Z wants to be on a contender. That's his main goal, and I respect that.

I think we should sell high, and we're going to get good pieces back. Z wouldn't be the difference between making the playoffs and missing them. He's a luxury, and an awesome human being. Glad we had him here for 2.5 years.
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Old 11-10-2023, 11:19 PM   #273
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Great news. He seems like a good guy but the thought of giving him a long term contract was always terrifying to me. He’s a good bottom pairing defenseman but you don’t overpay those guys.
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Old 11-10-2023, 11:21 PM   #274
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Any mention what four teams have inquired other than Toronto?
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Old 11-10-2023, 11:27 PM   #275
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Any mention what four teams have inquired other than Toronto?
LA
Panthers
Leafs
Dallas

are teams I've herd for Z.
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I would be interested to hear their reasoning for why Hanifin is worth 7 x max term? while Zadorov is someone they're willing to lose.

That's some questionable evaluation based on how those two respective players have performed under contract year implications.
Two utterly and completely different players.
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Well, good that the Panthers inquired. He lives there in the off-season, so perhaps there is a way increase the the assets the Flames receive if Zadorov signs a team-friendly deal with them.
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Old 11-10-2023, 11:30 PM   #278
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It doesn't make sense why the agent would say this. Whatever is the case, Zadorov needs new representation. I think his agent screwed him
How so?
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Old 11-10-2023, 11:34 PM   #279
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But his agent said he wanted to go to the Leafs...
I thought he said that he would accept a trade to Toronto. Not that he specifically wanted to go to Toronto.
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Old 11-10-2023, 11:35 PM   #280
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Big-Z plays a great game and the agent lets everyone know he's available. That sounds like great marketing to maximize the value coming back to Calgary.
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