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			I like it, extra pick, 6 years younger, more control and will be a lower cap hit.  Playing in our top 6 he should be a 20-25 goal scorer, bigger and faster, perfect. 
 
Guy wanted out and asked to be traded, do some research that’s not the recipe for a blockbuster return.  Connie and management don’t want players here that don’t want to be here and that’s good. 
 
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			06-27-2023, 07:23 PM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  cannon7
					 
				 
				Yeah, I've been listening. Saying is one thing, doing is another. 
 Was hoping the thinking part could work independently of the talking part? 
 
Either this team was going to try to stay competitive for another season or go full rebuild. But unsurprisingly they're instead going to pretend to do both. 
 
It's a bold strategy to be sure. Some of us will even delude ourselves into believing it will work. 
			
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This is a re-tool trade and trying to stay competitive. What were you expecting in return for Toffoli for staying competitive? A Duclair swap?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-27-2023, 07:23 PM
			
			
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			This guy will also cost half of what extending toffoli would've.  
 
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			06-27-2023, 07:23 PM
			
			
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			Watching his highlights, he’s got good wheels and a decent shot.  Had a knack for scoring off the rush, which is something Calgary lacks.  Looking at his stats, his production at 5v5 is basically on par with Toffoli the past three seasons.  If he can capitalize on the opportunity to play on a PP unit, this has potential to be a solid deal. 
 
Add in the cap savings, six years younger than Toffoli and hopefully a guy that can stick around for a while and there’s plenty to like here.  Also telling are the posts from Jersey fans on Twitter sad to see him go and asking Flame fans to take good care of him.  That’s always a good sign.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-27-2023, 07:23 PM
			
			
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				It won’t be a bunch.  Assuming they sign him at least a 3 year contract, he’ll get over $3M. 
			
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Comparables say he won’t get much of a raise in arbitration:  2.5 maybe.  They might yet bridge him with one year.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-27-2023, 07:24 PM
			
			
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				So when’s that Lindholm extension getting done? 
			
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July 1st 2023 at the earliest.
 
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			06-27-2023, 07:24 PM
			
			
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			I think they’ll still be adding duclair.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			06-27-2023, 07:24 PM
			
			
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				Can’t be a playoff choker if you don’t get played when your team is in the playoffs 
			
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Referring to McDiva.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-27-2023, 07:24 PM
			
			
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			Not disappointed with the player, I'm disappointed with the pick.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-27-2023, 07:24 PM
			
			
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				The Flames have never stated they are planning to blow it up...It seems like that what some people on this site think the plan is though, as that's come about through a bad game of telephone tag. 
			
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I personally want to see them rebuild, and I guess I expected they would want to rebuild too. But we know John Bean said he isn’t allowed to use the word rebuild…I’m just saying if the Flames focus on trading their players for players rather than acquiring futures, I’m going to be very disappointed.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-27-2023, 07:24 PM
			
			
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			Devils just got better. Come on Rangers/Hurricanes/Sabres/Red Wings, gotta keep up.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-27-2023, 07:24 PM
			
			
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				I think they’ll still be adding duclair. 
			
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I could see it. 
 
Just please don't let it be in a return for Hanifin.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-27-2023, 07:25 PM
			
			
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				Well his arb certainly isn’t going to award him more than his QO. 
			
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Why not? 
 
He's going to argue that he was playing at a 41 point pace over the last 2 seasons. That's close to $4M on average. I can see the Flames sticking to his QO in their argument, which leaves him at somewhere around $3M.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-27-2023, 07:25 PM
			
			
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				July 1st 2023 at the earliest. 
 
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Can’t wait for the 9m+ contract.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-27-2023, 07:25 PM
			
			
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			Best part is we don't have to see that Flames fan post that dumb Damn Tyler Toffoli video or some guy rubbing his body.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-27-2023, 07:25 PM
			
			
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				July 1st 2023 at the earliest. 
 
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I haven't used my question.
 
WILL they re-sign Elias Lindholm this offseason?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			06-27-2023, 07:26 PM
			
			
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				It doesn’t work like that.  
 
There is a reason he didn’t have that many shots. Most likely he is not good enough to be in position to get that many shots 
 
Conroy got low return on the team leading scorer 
 
He got less than what they paid for him after the guy had a career year. 
			
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Maybe he didn't play on the PP in Jersey.  Toffoli got all the PP time in Calgary and was the shooter.  They got almost the same amount of 5x5 points so if he gets some PP time why couldn't it happen?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-27-2023, 07:26 PM
			
			
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				I could see it.  
 
Just please don't let it be in a return for Hanifin. 
			
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Edit: Oops, one more year to Free Agency for Duclair, my bad.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-27-2023, 07:26 PM
			
			
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				I think they’ll still be adding duclair. 
			
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I’m starting to think the Duclair thing could be real after this trade. Friedman said it after all. I feel depressed.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-27-2023, 07:26 PM
			
			
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				I personally want to see them rebuild, and I guess I expected they would want to rebuild too. But we know John Bean said he isn’t allowed to use the word rebuild…I’m just saying if the Flames focus on trading their players for players rather than acquiring futures, I’m going to be very disappointed. 
			
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Yeah. That’s why I’m harsher on this trade than anything. There was a small sliver of hope a rebuild would happen but it isn’t and I shouldn’t be surprised lol
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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