[Trade] Flames trade Toffoli to NJ for RFA rights to Sharangovich and 80th OA

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by tkflames

What's his QO?

$2.05M, but he's eligible to go to arbitration.

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by Goriders

And a bunch of cap space which they need.

People seem to forget that Johnny Gaudreau left for 0 Assets.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

What made him do a 180 was term. As in he wanted a long term deal and the Flames were not interested in that. If Tyler Toffoli would have been ok with a 3 year extension he would still be here. The same people bitching about this trade would have been even bitchier if Conroy has given Toffoli a 6 year extension.

To be fair, it’s really difficult to figure out what realistic situations those same people wouldn’t be bitching about.

Want to sign Toffoli?

“Too old! Past his prime! Too much money! Any term is bad term!”

Want to trade Toffoli?

“Anything less than a 1st rounder in the most hyped draft in a decade+ IS CRIMINAL for a player of Toffoli’s calibre!”

Just goofy.

[Meers]

Not an overwhelming return.

But at least a return.

The team is a little younger and faster now, with less salary and an extra third round lottery ticket.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Goriders

And a bunch of cap space which they need.

It won’t be a bunch. Assuming they sign him at least a 3 year contract, he’ll get over $3M.

[Reggie Dunlop]

You can never have too many utility forwards.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by cannon7

The Stockholm Syndrome here is wild.

All this signals to me is Conroy hasn't chosen a path. He is firmly on the fence. Not a good sign.

Weird. I get the opposite feeling. It looks clear to me that Conroy is doing exactly what he talked about doing when he was hired: he is moving out pending UFAs who won't commit to re-signing, and he is making the team younger and faster.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Goriders

And a bunch of cap space which they need.

I wouldn’t say a bunch. Don’t see him taking less than his QO

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by MrMike

I don’t see anyone touching him until the Team Canada investigation wraps up.

Highly doubt they are trading Dube.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Sec214

Hey flames fans

sorry its not mcdavid.

Yours truely,

craig conroy

Thank god. Who wants a selfish player that's a proven playoff choker.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Thank god. Who wants a selfish player that's a proven playoff choker.

Can’t be a playoff choker if you don’t get played when your team is in the playoffs

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

This deal fits exactly the type of thing they said they would do.
You haven't been listening to what they have been saying. That's on you.

Yeah, I've been listening. Saying is one thing, doing is another.
Was hoping the thinking part could work independently of the talking part?

Either this team was going to try to stay competitive for another season or go full rebuild. But unsurprisingly they're instead going to pretend to do both.

It's a bold strategy to be sure. Some of us will even delude ourselves into believing it will work.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Sec214

People seem to forget that Johnny Gaudreau left for 0 Assets.

So when’s that Lindholm extension getting done?

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

$2.05M, but he's eligible to go to arbitration.

Well his arb certainly isn’t going to award him more than his QO.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by Bonded

I wouldn’t say a bunch. Don’t see him taking less than his QO

I think we'll see something like a 3 x $3.25M

[Paulie Walnuts]

Not sure what people expected Byfeild and a 1st?

Not getting a 2nd or 1st sucks but we got a proven NHL player who had 20 goals a year ago replacing a 20 goal scorer who us 6 years older and sower wanting to cash in on a career year.

Also helps getting this group another pick.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by DropIt

Sorry but this one stinks. Im not even a huge Toffoli fan, but we traded essentially a 1st and 2nd rpubd pick for him a little over a year ago

Just because Tre overpayed for him has nothing to do with his current value. He is one year from UFA so he is a rental for the Devils, after the big contracts they just handed out they are not giving Toffoli big term and dollars. People are way overvaluing the market. Taylor Hall, a former Hart trophy winner and first overall pick just went for a 6th. Kevin Hayes just returned a 6th with half his salary retained. I think Conroy got good value here.

[Jason14h]

Having never seen this guy play and knowing nothing about what other teams offered i can’t make up my mind if I hate this or like it but I know it’s one of the two

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Thank god. Who wants a selfish player that's a proven playoff choker.

I’d rather have 10.5 Million JGs than 10.5 Million JHs.

But you can’t have it all.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Nelson

I strongly dislike this trade. This trade signals to me the Flames May actually still try to compete for a playoff spot this year rather than rebuilding.

It is amazing to me that people are discovering this just now. Conroy was perfectly clear when he was hired that he believes this is a really good team that will compete again this season.