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Old 07-20-2022, 02:43 PM   #2681
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I just think Tkachuk is severely over rated...top 5 player is laughable. Hopefully GMs feel the same way as the media, looking forward to his 65 points for 10M

Rumored returns are all wins IMO...if they are even close to reality. Plus the cap space.

If the Flames suck then you tear it down at the deadline
He is not a #1 guy but a pretty damn good #2 or 3 on any team
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Old 07-20-2022, 02:43 PM   #2682
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The nice part about burning it to the ground is that after a few years of zero playoff revenue, if attendance drops and there’s still no end in sight to the arena situation, Edwards will just move the team and we’ll miss out on the benefits of of a rebuild.

Fun stuff. Can’t wait.
Honestly at that point do it

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Old 07-20-2022, 02:45 PM   #2683
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I just think Tkachuk is severely over rated...top 5 player is laughable. Hopefully GMs feel the same way as the media, looking forward to his 65 points for 10M

Rumored returns are all wins IMO...if they are even close to reality. Plus the cap space.

If the Flames suck then you tear it down at the deadline
Even if he isn’t a 100 pt player . You win with elite talent

Spare parts for stars has never made a team better
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Old 07-20-2022, 02:49 PM   #2684
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Having the over under on points being 21 points below last year and having the Flames improve from this trade are at odds unless you think Gaudreau, Gudbranson and a quarter of a season of Jarnkrok are worth more than 21 points.
He said the Hawks and Yotes were getting worried

Also you can be a worse regular season team and a better playoff team.
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Old 07-20-2022, 02:50 PM   #2685
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I just think Tkachuk is severely over rated...top 5 player is laughable. Hopefully GMs feel the same way as the media, looking forward to his 65 points for 10M

Rumored returns are all wins IMO...if they are even close to reality. Plus the cap space.

If the Flames suck then you tear it down at the deadline
What are the rumored returns that aren't being made by fans. Only one I have seen from an insider is that Parayko and Kyrou aren't on the table
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Old 07-20-2022, 02:50 PM   #2686
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Even if he isn’t a 100 pt player . You win with elite talent

Spare parts for stars has never made a team better
Who said spare parts? Kyrou is a spare part? 75 points and dominant in the playoffs.

Same posters who constantly complained about the guy are now acting like he is Crosby
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Old 07-20-2022, 02:53 PM   #2687
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He is not a #1 guy but a pretty damn good #2 or 3 on any team
I guess we will see, great hands...slowest guy in the league

10.5x8 won't age well IMO

You guys can disagree, I think the Flames are selling high big time
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What are the rumored returns that aren't being made by fans. Only one I have seen from an insider is that Parayko and Kyrou aren't on the table
The Blues Athletic writer said Kyrou, Krug, 1st.
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I really hope Backlund, Coleman, Toffoli, and Markstrom are next. Especially Markstrom because his value is never going to be higher in a rebuild.

Bring in some players to play with Lindholm and Mangiapane.

Plop Monahan on the top line and see if he can bounce back a bit.. and get the Flames a pick.
Sort of missed the boat on these I think. They needed to go at the draft. To many competitors that would want these guys are already maxed out on salary.
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Old 07-20-2022, 02:55 PM   #2690
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The Blues Athletic writer said Kyrou, Krug, 1st.
I'd be shocked if Krug waived but that isn't a bad worst case.
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Old 07-20-2022, 02:59 PM   #2691
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What are the rumored returns that aren't being made by fans. Only one I have seen from an insider is that Parayko and Kyrou aren't on the table
Well then they aren't getting him...next
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Old 07-20-2022, 03:01 PM   #2692
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I can watch 5 yet of crap and young kids to get a decade of being a top 5 team
I thought that way too back in 1999.


Do you remember Simpson, Hulse, Morris, Saprykin, Wilm, etc....

Man, no playoffs for the better part of a decade, crappy drafting, years wasted trying to find Iginla a proper center, no name after no name.

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I thought that way too back in 1999.


Do you remember Simpson, Hulse, Morris, Saprykin, Wilm, etc....

Man, no playoffs for the better part of a decade, crappy drafting, years wasted trying to find Iginla a proper center, no name after no name.

Pass thanks.
That was also a time with no salary cap. I agree - it can be difficult and you have teams like Arizona and Buffalo.

However, I think a team like the Calgary Flames who can spend to the cap might not have as difficult of a time to at least look somewhat exciting on the ice.
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He said the Hawks and Yotes were getting worried

Also you can be a worse regular season team and a better playoff team.
So you think after we make the Tkachuk trade we will be a significantly worse regular season team (presumably a 10% or more drop, getting maybe 98 points) and will get in the playoffs and make the third round? I would be willing to take that bet.
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The Blues Athletic writer said Kyrou, Krug, 1st.
I want a deal with all the guys they said we couldn't have.

Tkachuk for Kyrou, Parayko (overpriced 3rd pair but him and Zadorov would be fun) and a 1st

No thanks to Krug
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I want a deal with all the guys they said we couldn't have.

Tkachuk for Kyrou, Parayko (overpriced 3rd pair but him and Zadorov would be fun) and a 1st

No thanks to Krug
What's wrong with Krug?
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So you think after we make the Tkachuk trade we will be a significantly worse regular season team (presumably a 10% or more drop, getting maybe 98 points) and will get in the playoffs and make the third round? I would be willing to take that bet.
He said 90+ points. That would be the bet. 91 and he wins. Making the third round is your invention.
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He said 90+ points. That would be the bet. 91 and he wins. Making the third round is your invention.
Well he said they would do better in the playoffs next year. I am more interested in that fascinating part, a significantly worse regular season team but a playoff juggernaut. If 91 points makes the playoffs, great. But to be a better playoff team (like he said) you have to make the playoffs and to be better you have to make the third round.
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