Matthew Tkachuk & Johnny Gaudreau Signing Watch Thread

[handgroen]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

I'm not sure how you don't rebuild:

Johnny - Gone
Monahan - Derailed by injuries
Bennett - Traded
Tkachuk - One year from UFA
Valimaki - derailed by injuries

A major retool for Bedard hopefully

We just won the division

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Still holding my stance he will sign here. Maybe he takes a look tmrw but he still ends up back.

Enough man it’s over.

[tripin_billie]

https://twitter.com/user/status/frank_seravalli/status/1547012526596136963

[JohnnyB]

Well, Johnny being gone would basically mean that this year was the team's big shot at a run. This is what we got, a trip to the second round and beaten badly by the Oilers after so many years of this core. It seems it may have ended with a whimper rather than a bang.

[SirPsychoSexy]

Johnny Gaudreau? More like Gone-y Gaudreau.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

The one thing I will say is if he never had any intent of signing then he should have told them earlier.

Yeah it's very disappointing he and his agent kept stringing the Flames along until the last hours. Maybe he was really torn about the whole thing but the Flames are now way behind the 8-ball in free agency.

[CalgaryFan1988]

Trade Tkachuk asap please.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Probably better than he got today..

Today isn't the story. This whole year is the story.

Which is more valuable:

• Gaudreau playing his career year in Calgary, getting a first-place finish in the division, and winning a playoff series for only the second time in the salary cap era; or

• Getting marginal picks and prospects by selling him as a rental last year, being a bubble team, and watching him have his career year somewhere else?

The same people who are crying for Treliving to be fired now would have cried for him to be fired if Gaudreau scored 115 points for some other team.

There is no winning with this crowd.

[manwiches]

Today I am sad. Ugh.

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[CF84]

Well, I'll be super pissed at Johnny if he and Lewis strung the Flames along right until the end.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Today isn't the story. This whole year is the story.

Which is more valuable:

• Gaudreau playing his career year in Calgary, getting a first-place finish in the division, and winning a playoff series for only the second time in the salary cap era; or

• Getting marginal picks and prospects by selling him as a rental last year, being a bubble team, and watching him have his career year somewhere else?

The same people who are crying for Treliving to be fired now would have cried for him to be fired if Gaudreau scored 115 points for some other team.

There is no winning with this crowd.

Yeah, the asset management crowd conveniently omits that keeping Johnny led to a significant chance at a run to the conference finals or more in 2022.

[csnarpy]

Originally Posted by tripin_billie

https://twitter.com/user/status/https://twitter.com/frank_seravalli/status/1547012526596136963

That’s gone, if you could do some Cole’s notes..

[MegaErtz]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Today isn't the story. This whole year is the story.

Which is more valuable:

• Gaudreau playing his career year in Calgary, getting a first-place finish in the division, and winning a playoff series for only the second time in the salary cap era; or

• Getting marginal picks and prospects by selling him as a rental last year, being a bubble team, and watching him have his career year somewhere else?

The same people who are crying for Treliving to be fired now would have cried for him to be fired if Gaudreau scored 115 points for some other team.

There is no winning with this crowd.

Winning a Stanley Cup is the goal. I'd much rather my team make a legitimate effort to win one rather than being a team that wins a playoff round once a decade or so.

[Flames1217]

So.wasted every second of Brads time for the past two weeks only to leave.... A bit dirty.

[Stampede2TheCup]

Originally Posted by fleury

Guys, overpaying by $1.5 is a big deal in a cap world. You have to make sure you don’t overpay for anyone, but justifying overpaying because we’ve overpaid others is flawed logic. If you can’t get rid of that contract it’s a big deal. Johnny is not worth $11M at all in my mind. Go back to multiple posts over the past three or four years where the pitchforks were out to see how inconsistent he’s been at times. I’m not a hater but he slots in well at $9.5. At $11 it’s a franchise altering number and if you’re banking on him as your future cornerstone for the next eight years many of us will be screaming in five years where this will be a handcuff to what we do. Same posters complain about what McDavid’s contract has done for the oil and he’s a far better player (honestly objectively). These massive contracts are team killers.

Not having a enough talent on your team is also a team-killer, and it’s hard to acquire talent like Johnny. It’s far from certain that the contract would be a handcuff after 5 years. I’m not certain of what he’s worth but it’s a sum of a huge number of variables, and even some are beyond the team’s on-ice success.

[flamesrule_kipper34]

Frank Seravalli:

Johnny Gaudreau informed the #Flames he will not be returning to Calgary. Emotional conversation for both sides, as the Flames rolled out the red carpet to keep him.

A massive offer was presented, as we reported, but this wasn't about money.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Yeah it's very disappointing he and his agent kept stringing the Flames along until the last hours. Maybe he was really torn about the whole thing but the Flames are now way behind the 8-ball in free agency.

Why would he string them along. I think he was very conflicted on leaving.

[Mars]

Well this sucks but life goes on I guess. Back to lurking for me.

[CF84]

Also, if any of this news holds true, I'll be hoping for a Tkachuk trade and a Flames rebuild/retool...I can't watch a team that just floats through the NHL every year with no real chance at making a push.

I can watch a team that decides to rebuild or retool though.

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by Flames1217

So.wasted every second of Brads time for the past two weeks only to leave.... A bit dirty.

Vent how ever you want to vent, but it doesn't take Brad very long to present an offer to an agent. If he didn't have a backup plan, he shouldn't have a job.