Matthew Tkachuk & Johnny Gaudreau Signing Watch Thread

[dino7c]

this could also be an agent tactic...if they were actually that close

[Racki]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Still holding my stance he will sign here. Maybe he takes a look tmrw but he still ends up back.

Nah. You don’t take a look only to sign for 7 years instead of 8

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by greyshep

Still contend this is on Treliving. Had to know that Johnny valued being closer to family, this isnt a personal trait that just suddenly revealed itself in the last season.

There are only about four teams that bring him as close to his family as he wants. Of those four:

• Rangers had no cap space
• Islanders and Devils weren't competitive and had no reason to spend assets to land Gaudreau in '21-22
• Flyers had no cap space AND weren't competitive.

Any other team that the Flames traded him to would have known they were losing him as a UFA after one year.

So what kind of deal do you think Treliving could have made a year ago?

[Mass_nerder]

The only complaint I have is that he didn't let the team know sooner, since it's basically sabotaged the team's ability to conduct all other pending UFA business.
Hopefully it's true that he was just torn, and truly took this long to make his decision.

[MrMike]

Well so now we play the same game with Tkachuk.

[CF84]

Originally Posted by MrMike

What the hell does that have to do with this?

All AT77 does is dis Toffoli.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Yep once the big guys start following each other with confirmations, that's all she wrote.

I mean we knew there was a good chance it was coming and yet there's still an element of shock and gut punch to the moment.

No kidding, sobering for sure. Drafting a superstar in the 4th round was an incredible find for the organization. If this is the end, sure feels like unfulfilled promise.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Goodness. I go the the grocery store and come back to 9 more pages. So much chatter about no news.

Keep reading...

[iloveicedhockey]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

Keep reading...

Don't do it!

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

There are only about four teams that bring him as close to his family as he wants. Of those four:

• Rangers had no cap space
• Islanders and Devils weren't competitive and had no reason to spend assets to land Gaudreau in '21-22
• Flyers had no cap space AND weren't competitive.

Any other team that the Flames traded him to would have known they were losing him as a UFA after one year.

So what kind of deal do you think Treliving could have made a year ago?

Probably better than he got today.

No sense finger pointing for this one move though. It’s the GM’s team, let’s see what he does by training camp.

[madmike]

Gotta be honest. I’m going to be completely checked out on the Flames and hockey in general this year. I’ve got zero interest in watching another rebuild.

[agulati]

Originally Posted by MrMike

Well so now we play the same game with Tkachuk.

If the rumors of player(s) wanting out are true if Johnny didn’t re-sign, I hope the team takes a hard pivot.

[GullFoss]

I'm not sure how you don't rebuild:

Johnny - Gone
Monahan - Derailed by injuries
Bennett - Traded
Tkachuk - One year from UFA
Valimaki - derailed by injuries

A major retool for Bedard hopefully

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by MrMike

Well so now we play the same game with Tkachuk.

Well that's the thing. If they trapped down the same road they're gonna get the same result. Might as well turn your fan card in if they do that.losing your two biggest assets for absolutely nothing. Thats a death knell.

[handgroen]

Originally Posted by madmike

Gotta be honest. I’m going to be completely checked out on the Flames and hockey in general this year. I’ve got zero interest in watching another rebuild.

I watch every game every year I’m not gonna sit here and pretend I’m not a nutjob who eats and sleeps flames.

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by madmike

Gotta be honest. I’m going to be completely checked out on the Flames and hockey in general this year. I’ve got zero interest in watching another rebuild.

Give me a rebuild rather than overpaying Kadri or Trochek to crazy extensions.

The only way I’d still end up happy is if Malkin signed for 3 years

[Jiri Hrdina]

The one thing I will say is if he never had any intent of signing then he should have told them earlier.

[home_sweet_dome]

Colossal fail from the pizza boy GM. Watch him compound it even more with a ridiculous Kadri or Kane signing tmrw.

Par for the course for the terrible organization that is the Flames

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

There are only about four teams that bring him as close to his family as he wants. Of those four:

• Rangers had no cap space
• Islanders and Devils weren't competitive and had no reason to spend assets to land Gaudreau in '21-22
• Flyers had no cap space AND weren't competitive.

Any other team that the Flames traded him to would have known they were losing him as a UFA after one year.

So what kind of deal do you think Treliving could have made a year ago?

Johnny lived all the way in Iowa as a 17 year old. I think the idea that location is the only factor is misguided.

I believe it ultimately comes down to AAV and Term

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

There are only about four teams that bring him as close to his family as he wants. Of those four:

• Rangers had no cap space
• Islanders and Devils weren't competitive and had no reason to spend assets to land Gaudreau in '21-22
• Flyers had no cap space AND weren't competitive.

Any other team that the Flames traded him to would have known they were losing him as a UFA after one year.

So what kind of deal do you think Treliving could have made a year ago?

Would it have been more than nothing? Because that’s what we’re about to get. The truth is that’s brutal asset management for the organization. You find a diamond in the 4th round, and he walks for free instead of making a trade before the limited NTC.