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Old 07-07-2022, 01:02 PM   #6001
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Eklund luckily is wrong 99% of the time.

He has the number 2 pick for Tkachuk as a possibility

Also has Gaudreau’s rights being traded to Philly as something that could happen soon
Yeah he took that Tkachuk rumour from the NJ press article about a month ago that proposed NJ dealing the 2nd for Tkachuk.

Tkachuk is worth more then the 2nd OA. There is a + and + there.
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Old 07-07-2022, 01:05 PM   #6002
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Eklund: Gaudreau's rights for Gritty and half a Geno's cheesesteak.
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Old 07-07-2022, 01:05 PM   #6003
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As a rival fan this is my perspective:

If the rumored value of 8 x 9.5 was offered and he is thinking about it from a money thing, the value has to go up to 8 x 10.5-10.75 at least. To lose a 1st line player and your best player over 1 M annually cannot happen.

If it isn't a money thing and he wants to be home, then nothing can be done and he earned the right as a UFA. But if it isn't about that and simply money, you up the offer to 10.75 M+. I understand there are limits to each player but you can replace 3rd and 4th liners and cut a M or 2 there but to replace your best player with a downgrade (there isn't a player on the market who is as good as him), is unacceptable if this is only a money thing. To "overpay" by a small margin for those who feel that number would be an overpayment has to be done.

I'm not saying I am right, I am just saying this is my opinion and you can't lose your 29 year old best player (which in turn could lose your 2nd best player) by 1 M.
I have no doubt in my mind Treliving started with that offer to test the waters. If Johnny's camp comes back with a counter offer, then you know he wants to come back to Calgary, and it's just more money he wants. If they don't counter offer, then that's more worrying, as it means he's leaning towards not coming back. At that point, the only thing you can do is entice him with more money to see if it would change his mind.
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Old 07-07-2022, 01:07 PM   #6004
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Eklund: Gaudreau's rights for Gritty and half a Geno's cheesesteak.
Why are we wasting assets on Gritty when we already have Scorch. Dammit Treliving
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Old 07-07-2022, 01:07 PM   #6005
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And?

The question was “is there an amount that he would have signed for last summer?”
The answer is maybe yes, but it's likely a number that everyone would have hated.
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Old 07-07-2022, 01:09 PM   #6006
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I have it on good authority that Gaudreau's camp has countered today, however at closer to $11MM/year. That's all I will say.
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Old 07-07-2022, 01:10 PM   #6007
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^ Should be a done deal then. Gaudreau wants to stay at around 11M? Take it.
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Old 07-07-2022, 01:10 PM   #6008
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I have it on good authority that Gaudreau's camp has countered today, however at closer to $11MM/year. That's all I will say.
IF that's true... cya Johnny.
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Old 07-07-2022, 01:12 PM   #6009
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I have it on good authority that Gaudreau's camp has countered today, however at closer to $11MM/year. That's all I will say.
Sign the deal. $11M x 8. You don't lose your best player over anything near $1M annually.
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I have it on good authority that Gaudreau's camp has countered today, however at closer to $11MM/year. That's all I will say.
Then meet at 10.25.
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^ Should be a done deal then. Gaudreau wants to stay at around 11M? Take it.
So he essentially believes he can get 12.5M a season on the open market. If that's the case - good luck Johhny boy.
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Old 07-07-2022, 01:13 PM   #6012
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Old 07-07-2022, 01:13 PM   #6013
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Sure, but the fact there has been no discussion on the initial offer tells you a lot. Someone committed to staying would probably be working hard over the last month hammering out terms that work for both sides so that they are happy and they are sure that the team can remain competitive...
Where does it say there has been no discussion? On the contrary, Treliving also goes on to say that "we continue to work at it." It sounds to me like talks are ongoing in one form or another.


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Old 07-07-2022, 01:13 PM   #6014
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IF that's true... cya Johnny.
haha what?

The Flames will sign that.

Pinder/Steinberg were saying yesterday that the Flames would probably even go as high as 12 to re-sign him because the alternative fallout is much worse.
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So he essentially believes he can get 12.5M a season on the open market. If that's the case - good luck Johhny boy.
Meet in the middle 8 x $10.25MM get it done and move on.
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Old 07-07-2022, 01:15 PM   #6016
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11? Let's say they meet at $10.5 - who cares?? Do it! So we have to give up a 4th line plugger salary to make that happen - who gives a ####.
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Old 07-07-2022, 01:15 PM   #6017
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I have it on good authority that Gaudreau's camp has countered today, however at closer to $11MM/year. That's all I will say.
Git 'er done Tre


Graduating some AHL players to fill out the rest of the roster isn't a bad thing
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Sign that deal and move Tkachuk.
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Old 07-07-2022, 01:15 PM   #6019
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If it's 11MM AAV for a few years, sure.

I don't want to have him getting 11MM at 36yrs old... if he was a few years younger then fine.

Alterative fallout worse or not, too much money & term for me.
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