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				Hard not to wonder where we’d be if Sutter had just come in before the 5 against Ottawa. 
			
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I'd say before the two with the Oil, so we could've pounded some humility into them and reigned them in a little. 
 
Those 4 games with the Canucks were the breaking point for the Geoff Ward Flames for me, even though we won 2.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-13-2021, 07:51 PM
			
			
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				Well, maybe coaching does make a difference? I don’t think the Flames had that dominating of a shift at any time under Ward. 
			
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I wonder what the Ward apologists think of this sudden shift in play quality.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			03-13-2021, 07:52 PM
			
			
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			The difference in play is so extreme and happened so quickly, what Ward did in his brief time here is not far off from actual sabotage.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-13-2021, 07:52 PM
			
			
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				Ugh, I really hope they don't keep the Canadian division again next season.  I'm already so sick of playing the same damn teams over and over again.  Personally I'm hoping the divisions go back to normal next year. 
			
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I'm also blaming this division thing if Edmonton makes they playoffs here for just the 2nd time since fire was discovered. Although I bet they thought they would make it last year too...  
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-13-2021, 07:52 PM
			
			
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			Flames arent giving room to Montreal....anywhere on the ice. 
 
Simple and effective hockey and all it takes is effort. 
 
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			03-13-2021, 07:52 PM
			
			
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				Seriously, the difference in this team's work ethic under Sutter is equivalent to the difference in effort from James Neal and Milan Lucic. 
			
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Quite frankly, I find it astonishing.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			03-13-2021, 07:53 PM
			
			
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				I believe Harnarayan went to Mount Royal and started off his broadcasting career at CBC Calgary. 
			
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 Mount Royal? Montreal? coincidence? I think not  
ok it is a coincidence
 
still that darn Harnarayan Singh grew up an Oilers fan
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-13-2021, 07:53 PM
			
			
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				Seriously, the difference in this team's work ethic under Sutter is equivalent to the difference in effort from James Neal and Milan Lucic. 
			
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Makes you think Neal could have even ended up being useful under a proper coach
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			03-13-2021, 07:53 PM
			
			
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			03-13-2021, 07:54 PM
			
			
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				Makes you think Neal could have even ended up being useful under a proper coach 
			
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lol no
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-13-2021, 07:55 PM
			
			
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				Makes you think Neal could have even ended up being useful under a proper coach 
			
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Funny. He's useless under any coach
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-13-2021, 07:55 PM
			
			
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				I'm also blaming this division thing if Edmonton makes they playoffs here for just the 2nd time since fire was discovered. Although I bet they thought they would make it last year too...   
			
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Well the Oilers are .500 against not the Sens so it does make you wonder where they would be in a normal season
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			03-13-2021, 07:56 PM
			
			
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				Seriously, the difference in this team's work ethic under Sutter is equivalent to the difference in effort from James Neal and Milan Lucic. 
			
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				Makes you think Neal could have even ended up being useful under a proper coach 
			
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James Neal's effort coefficient is impossible to calculate, as nothing can be divided by zero.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			03-13-2021, 07:57 PM
			
			
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				I wonder what the Ward apologists think of this sudden shift in play quality. 
			
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My guess is more of the same from last game
 
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				It makes for a more boring brand of hockey, but like I’ve said in the past, I’ll take boring wins over infuriating losses any day. 
			
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				The difference in play is so extreme and happened so quickly, what Ward did in his brief time here is not far off from actual sabotage. 
			
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Was crazy that the nay sayers around CP were starting to get to me at the end there when they said we didn't have the pieces to compete in the division, yet the league.
 
I knew it was BS and that the ability was there to play suffocating hockey like this, but they played so drastically below their potential that it was hard to say otherwise.
 
Roster was always good enough to be a top 2 team in this division like the pundits predicted, they just didn't have the direction or the belief to put it together. 
 
Sutter was exactly what they needed.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-13-2021, 07:59 PM
			
			
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			Flames seemed in pretty good shape when Neal was here. The only reason he made the team was because of his salary.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-13-2021, 07:59 PM
			
			
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			So far so good but lets not get carried away here guys
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			03-13-2021, 07:59 PM
			
			
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				Was crazy that the nay sayers around CP were starting to get to me at the end there when they said we didn't have the pieces to compete in the division, yet the league. 
 
I knew it was BS and that the ability was there to play suffocating hockey like this, but they played so drastically below their potential that it was hard to say otherwise. 
 
Roster was always good enough to be a top 2 team in this division like the pundits predicted, they just didn't have the direction or the belief to put it together.  
 
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You can compete in the league as is , or you can be a contender. Flams are far from contender with this group.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-13-2021, 07:59 PM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  djsFlames
					 
				 
				Was crazy that the nay sayers around CP were starting to get to me at the end there when they said we didn't have the pieces to compete in the division, yet the league. 
 
I knew it was BS and that the ability was there to play suffocating hockey like this, but they played so drastically below their potential that it was hard to say otherwise. 
 
Roster was always good enough to be a top 2 team in this division like the pundits predicted, they just didn't have the direction or the belief to put it together.  
 
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Yep. I'd say good enough roster to be top two in the Division and now the top coach in the Division.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-13-2021, 08:00 PM
			
			
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				I'm also blaming this division thing if Edmonton makes they playoffs here for just the 2nd time since fire was discovered.    
			
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The fact that they get to play Ottawa and Vancouver so many times is definitely inflating their record this year.  Not to mention all the points they've gotten from a mediocre and fragile Flames team during the first half of this season.  
 
We've all seen how badly they get spanked when they play against an actual playoff-caliber team who can counter them with depth.  If this were a normal NHL schedule, I'm convinced the Oilers wouldn't be anywhere near the top of the division.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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