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Old 04-16-2017, 12:30 AM   #541
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Whoever did make those comments about Dougie should no longer be involved with Flames broadcasts at least.
I don't have a problem with what they said. Brutaly honest and to the truth.
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Old 04-16-2017, 12:30 AM   #542
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Hahaha blaming the refs? Really?
Yes I am. The officiating was a #%^*ing disgrace. They let everything go in the third and called two bull$&@ penalties late in the period that had nothing to do with scoring chances.

A total joke.
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Old 04-16-2017, 12:30 AM   #543
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This team lost cause their best players are invisible.
except when they scored those goals
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Old 04-16-2017, 12:30 AM   #544
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Good question. Also, when are the players that aren't playing well going to be held accountable?

Bartkowski shouldn't see another minute. Brouwer should literally be sent home. He's just terrible and his only good trait is being big and being able to screen the goalie but he hasn't deserved a second of pp time.

Versteeg has out played pretty much the entire bottom 6 and a few guys in the top 6 including Frolik and Tkachuk. As bad as the reffing has been, a lot of the team hasn't shown up.
How dare you critique the Flames? Don't you know that it doesn't make you a fan?

No, a 'real' fan just blames the refs.
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Old 04-16-2017, 12:30 AM   #545
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Did you read what I posted?

And yes there was a call on the ice of no goal..why do you think they were reviewing it to begin with?
The review was to see if the puck went in, as I don't believe the ref saw it. If it was ruled no goak for incidental contact the faceoff comes out of the zone, which did not happen.

Now it seems the ref is saying TO said no goal, and TO is saying the ref made the call.

I have no doubt this was not handled properly. Perhaps it didn't impact what the call would have ultimately been, but something wonky happened.
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Old 04-16-2017, 12:30 AM   #546
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You're really naive if you think that this has never once happened before in all the NHL games that have been played. The difference now is that some degenerate decided they would pounce. Maybe one of these guys crossed them and they decided it was payback time.

Either way it is beyond low from the standpoint of backstabbing a colleague and creating additional drama the Flames don't need right now when this undoubtedly gets back to the team.
If I were to say rude things about co-workers outside of work and somehow those comments became public, you better believe I'm going to get in trouble. Whether or not the person meant for those comments to become public doesn't matter. They are, and it's incredibly irresponsible.
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Old 04-16-2017, 12:30 AM   #547
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The only call I had a real big problem with was the costly one by Hamilton on Perry. I thought you either don't call it, or you call them both - holding AND interference. Anaheim are probably the best in the league at using picks, and the refs rarely call them. Brodie's penalty at the end was definitely a penalty. They are going to call that one every time, and Kesler doesn't even need to embellish it.

Anaheim is an opportunistic team that got lucky tonight. Flames I thought did 'fine' the first game, and tonight they were the better team without a doubt. Sometime you lose games that you are supposed to win. The silver lining is that they are outplaying the Ducks. The series isn't over.

I have been very critical of Brouwer lately, but I thought he had a good game. I can see why Gulutzan is using him seemingly too much - Flames are having a hard time on the draw. I am not a big fan of his game, but he is playing well enough that you have to keep him in the lineup for his faceoffs alone.

Feel bad for Bouma. Just an unlucky bounce. You can see how upset he was at it.

Flames just need to play exactly this way again at home, and they will win. They out-skated the Ducks, and won a tonne of puck battles - more than I thought they were capable of doing against the Ducks. Flames just need to wear them down. Ducks are starting to look like a tired team - a fricken' lucky team, but a tired team nonetheless. If I am Gulutzan, I am telling my players to finish every check on Lindholm. He is the last key cog left on the decimated blueline.

I like how Monahan is starting to look effective even with Kesler draped all over him. That's goals in consecutive games for him.

Flames just need to stay a bit more composed, but I thought they did a MUCH better job in that area tonight than in the first game. A much more mature team. Just a few instances where I thought they lost their composure, but this is also on the refs as well. If you aren't going to call something early on in the game, then don't call it halfway through the first period.

And please, start calling those picks. This isn't basketball refs. They are blatant interference penalties that the Ducks have gotten away with for years now.
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Old 04-16-2017, 12:31 AM   #548
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Also, that is not Ball or Millions in the video, that's pretty clear. Maybe some technical guy up in the booth packing up?
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Old 04-16-2017, 12:31 AM   #549
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Complaining about the refs is the behavior of losers.
No, blaming them is.

Calling out the atrocious, completely inconsistent officiating is calling a spade a spade.

I watched several games in the last 48 hours where the whistles went away when it was tied. The calls at the end of this game were a joke.
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Old 04-16-2017, 12:31 AM   #550
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That loss is not heartbreaking.

That loss is rage inducing.

I can't remember the last time I was this frustrated over a hockey game.
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But they're having a private convo and aren't professional at all times. I don't think it's that bad just obviously shouldn't have been heard by anyone.
Donald Sterlings audio was private too. Not thw same level but it was unprofessional. Thats how the media loses access to players.
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Old 04-16-2017, 12:31 AM   #552
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If they're still mic'd, they should be representing their employer with the highest discretion. This isn't a podcast, it's being broadcast live to an enormous audience. Malfunctions and leaks happen... just ask Millions.
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Old 04-16-2017, 12:31 AM   #553
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Yeah, the total lack of professionalism.
Considering they were off the air and have convo's like this all the time, they didn't Ball and Garrett didn't say anything that was out of line. Ball thoughts that the series may already be over isn't offside.
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Old 04-16-2017, 12:31 AM   #554
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If you want to single out individuals to blame for losses then become a fan of professional golf or singles tennis.

This is a team game. The Flames lost. Not Hamilton or Brodie or Elliott as individuals.

There's no such thing as a curse except in the lacking of mental toughness in the minds of the 'victims' of such an excuse.

And losers complain about refs. I'm not saying sometimes bad calls don't lead to goals for or against...of course they do. Like they have since literally the first time the game was ever played with a ref. Professionals need to win games in the face of mistakes by refs.

I yelled at Johnny to shoot, but he's not an idiot or a garbage player because what he saw at ice level under that intense pressure was different than what I saw from my couch. Nobody was calling him an idiot on his multiple other fantastic passes this game.

I think Hamilton and Brodie should be begging their teammates for forgiveness and should smarten the f--k up next game but give it a rest. They screwed up. Everyone has a turn once in a while. Maybe we should work a bit harder at making the Ducks pay for their mistakes...

This was a brutal game to lose but I really only started to get mad when I came in and read the foolish spaz posts in this thread.

The team found a way to lose again in spite of having almost played well enough to win. It sucks. So suck it up and smash them 8-3 at home and pick it up from there.

We easily could have been watching no flames playoffs this year. But this team found a way to get in. Abandoning them because of a few bs bounces and a few stupid plays is pathetic.
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Old 04-16-2017, 12:32 AM   #555
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What stands in the way becomes the way. If you think the officiating is biased (which it probably is), you play more disciplined. Everything else is just excuses. We did it for two and a half periods but that won't cut it.

And for everyone saying the Flames are terrible, series is over, NHL is out to get us, I'm quitting hockey, etc etc etc -- feel free to log off now and don't bother come back. Don't worry, nobody will actually miss you. The constant negative criticism makes CP virtually unreadable sometimes. My $0.02.

agreed x 1000 .... series is over? watch the other series and catch up on your rest. Ill join the series is over camp if we get outplayed in our barn but we could be up 2-0 just as easily if officating was on display as player activity was.

I hope Glen has a rabbit up his hat and Johny has been mr nobody because of his match up. I want to see Johny go off for 2 and fire up the team. I also don't rule out changing Ferland to the 3rd line. I am the biggest Ferland fan there is but he is more effective come playoffs to bruise the other team than he is to snipe. Hathaway, Ferland and X on home ice would spark the team the way Kassian did for the oilers.... down 2-0 and Stajan is not playoff built while Brouwer is still a mysterly.
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Old 04-16-2017, 12:32 AM   #556
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This team lost cause their best players are invisible.
Disagree. First two lines were great, generating chances all night and scoring the two goals (except for gaudreaus pass). Gio and Brodie were great (except for that penalty).


We get a lucky bounce to win the game and everyone's negative narrative would be the opposite.
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this seemed to be a private conversation. why would they have to be professional off the record just chatting among themselves?
They're still in the broadcast booth, at the arena. If they were at home having a few beers you might have a point. They might have clocked out but they're still at the job site.
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Just setting the stage for an epic game 7 victory to obliterate the curse once and for all.
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this seemed to be a private conversation. why would they have to be professional off the record just chatting among themselves?
Then have the conversation in the elevator or on the trip back to the hotel. Not in the room with the mics and the satellite uplink.
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I don't really like using the ignore button, it almost feels like using it means that the Oilers have won.
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