American Politics Thread: Orange is the new POTUS (Archive)

[nik-]

Originally Posted by New Era

How much of it has been replaced and rebuilt? So? The problem with these things is you build them and wait for them to fail. That is why the protests are going on. No one wants an oil pipe on their lands waiting for it to fail. Not people who rely on their lands and their traditions are tied to the land. Another example of Trump being a moron. He believes he can just negotiate away their culture and their traditions. This protest has been going on for years. It ain't about negotiation. It's about NIMBY.

No, you don't just build them and wait for them to fail. You maintain them like any other infrastructure. Which is why so many of them are so old.

The protests are fine, whether trump can bully them through remains to be seen.

[REDVAN]

Regardless of your position on President Trump, watch the video here:

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/24/po...ons/index.html

VP Pence is so awkward... and President Trump is so... awkward.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by New Era

Energy is a long term problem. A pipeline is a very short term solution. This is not about addressing needs, it is about short term profiteering. An executive order to push through a pipeline is not about future policy, it is about paying those who supported you. Pretty straight forward to me.

FWIW, the problem then is not that Trump is trying to ram the pipelines through - short term solutions remain valid even if they don't solve long term issues. The problem is that the long term planning is not coinciding with the short term solution.

[REDVAN]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

FWIW, the problem then is not that Trump is trying to ram the pipelines through - short term solutions remain valid even if they don't solve long term issues. The problem is that the long term planning is not coinciding with the short term solution.

Has there been any action for or against a "long term solution" in the past couple days by Trump or his team?

[ernie]

I can say that even the many Trump voters in these parts are already getting turned off by him. They were happy to say "well sure he lied but those are things that have to be done to get elected sometimes" but they aren't happy to say "sure he's lying about the crowd numbers and this and that but that's OK". They are in fact getting frustrated with the BS because all it does is put emphasis on him being exactly like every other politician in Washington...and in fact worse.

[PsYcNeT]

Preeeeeetty sure this is how dictatorships begin...

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...icle-1.2954647

President Trump has instituted media blackouts at the Environmental Protection Agency and the U.S. Department of Agriculture

Trump has ordered a ban on EPA employees from providing updates on social media or to reporters, as well as a ban on awarding new contracts or grants.

[Senator Clay Davis]

The Associated Press ‏@AP 4h4 hours ago
BREAKING: Trump bans EPA employees from providing updates on social media or to reporters, bars awarding new contracts or grants.

https://twitter.com/AP/status/823949141894111233

[DuffMan]

figured I'd throw this in here.

[Canuck-Hater]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

https://twitter.com/AP/status/823949141894111233

I guess we can expect more asinine moves like this for the next 4 years...

[stampsx2]

Originally Posted by ernie

I can say that even the many Trump voters in these parts are already getting turned off by him. They were happy to say "well sure he lied but those are things that have to be done to get elected sometimes" but they aren't happy to say "sure he's lying about the crowd numbers and this and that but that's OK". They are in fact getting frustrated with the BS because all it does is put emphasis on him being exactly like every other politician in Washington...and in fact worse.

Source?

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

https://twitter.com/AP/status/823949141894111233

Republicans hate the environment.

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by stampsx2

Source?

building the swamp?

[DuffMan]

and remember, vaccines cause autism, and Obama is from Kenya

President Trump stands by his belief that millions of people voted illegally in the 2016 presidential election, White House press secretary Sean Spicer said Tuesday.
The spokesman doubled down on the false claim after the president raised it Monday night during a reception with congressional leaders.

"The president does believe that. He has stated that before," Spicer told reporters at the daily press briefing on Tuesday afternoon.

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politi...DeF?li=AAggNb9

[Locke]

Originally Posted by DuffMan

Republicans hate the environment.

It is admittedly overrated.

Too many bugs.

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by Locke

It is admittedly overrated.

Too many bugs.

Trump will build a wall.

[Resolute 14]

The Badlands National Park's twitter account is today's government affiliated Twitter account passively aggressively trolling Trump:

https://twitter.com/BadlandsNPS

It's hilarious that it's a different account every day.

[Flamenspiel]

Originally Posted by New Era

How much of it has been replaced and rebuilt? So? The problem with these things is you build them and wait for them to fail. That is why the protests are going on. No one wants an oil pipe on their lands waiting for it to fail. Not people who rely on their lands and their traditions are tied to the land. Another example of Trump being a moron. He believes he can just negotiate away their culture and their traditions. This protest has been going on for years. It ain't about negotiation. It's about NIMBY.

You sound like Jane Fonda, and very naive. People get paid to have energy infrastructure on their land, and that includes first nations. If you don't want to sell or lease the land they go around it.

[ernie]

Originally Posted by stampsx2

Source?

I thought it was pretty clear I was sourcing my own conversations and acquaintances. If it wasn't I'm sorry...it's what the in these parts thing meant.

I live in Missouri, work in Oklahoma and play hockey in arkansas....most voted for Trump. Many are still blissfully happy the black communist isn't in office anymore (and yes that is something I have heard more than once), some were immediately "good lord what have we done" on election night and a good chunk of the remaining are quickly going to "hmm this is actually embarrassing and not what I thought would happen. He isn't capable of being a president".

Why the third group couldn't see it before election day I don't know but they are starting to see it now.

[HotHotHeat]

CNN's current headline has been like that for three hours and counting.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Lol

carl hulse ‏@hillhulse 57m57 minutes ago
On SCOTUS, Sen McConnell hopes "our Democratic friends treat Trump's nominees same way we treated Clinton and Obama." Hmmmm

https://twitter.com/hillhulse/status/824008513680769024