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Old 02-17-2016, 11:33 PM   #81
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Old 02-17-2016, 11:35 PM   #82
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Anyways.. what do you guys think of Nakladal?

would you try to resign him based on his play through his 2.1 games played?
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Old 02-17-2016, 11:36 PM   #83
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"Maybe I should take a risk and donate to an unlicensed, non-audited charity"

*Hiller fundraiser pops up*

"Nevermind, these things could be a scam"
I don't think people compare stories about kids having cancer to "Get Kanye out of debt" or "Get Hiller to Switzerland" to confirm their validity.
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Old 02-17-2016, 11:37 PM   #84
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Anyways.. what do you guys think of Nakladal?

would you try to resign him based on his play through his 2.1 games played?
He's not afraid to shoot. And while he technically didn't get an assist on the PP goal, he helped set it up.
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Old 02-17-2016, 11:43 PM   #85
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Well we will definitely have to trade for a goalie. Hiller, Ramo and Ortio are not the answer. on another note I think the last goalie the Flames developed in house was Vernon. Kipper was already 27 when we got him. Goalie development has been a sore point of the org for 30 years. Take Kipper out and the team has had some of the worst goaltending of any team in the league in that stretch I bet.
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Even though I'm sure its a byproduct of injuries, color me impressed that Gelinais played Nakladal 16+ minutes tonight.
Fixed for you.

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Old 02-17-2016, 11:46 PM   #87
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Hiller not good. That's obvious.

Gaudreau and Bennett get points. I'm happy.

I really think even if they end up with the 1st overall pick they should take one of the Finn's. They would fit in perfectly with this team and is exactly what's missing.
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I don't think people compare stories about kids having cancer to "Get Kanye out of debt" or "Get Hiller to Switzerland" to confirm their validity.
I don't know. I only donate to a select few charities because they are financially transparent. But I look at this like Craig's List. It was once a place where honest classifieds could be posted, but the reputation tanked after a series of scams and crimes took over. Now its well known to avoid Craig's List.

Pretty soon people will hear about a "Gofundme", and it will carry such a negative image that it won't matter how legit the fundraiser is, its just too risky given all the scams.
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Old 02-17-2016, 11:48 PM   #89
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Hiller not good. That's obvious.

Gaudreau and Bennett get points. I'm happy.

I really think even if they end up with the 1st overall pick they should take one of the Finn's. They would fit in perfectly with this team and is exactly what's missing.
well that would be insane...AM is going #1

I suppose you could trade down if the deal was right
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The short handed goal was a good shot, deflected goal was lucky, the other 2 were soft. Regardless, if you don't like/think the sv% from tonight is indicative then look at Hiller's sv% for the year. It isn't much better, probably not even in the top 50 of the league.


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Hiller is 59 out of 60. He is the worst goalie in the league stat wise for almost 2.5 months.

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Old 02-17-2016, 11:55 PM   #91
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Hiller is NO GOOD. That's obvious.

Gaudreau and Bennett get points. I'm happy.

I really think even if they end up with the 1st overall pick they should take one of the Finn's. They would fit in perfectly with this team and is exactly what's missing.
Fixed it for ya.
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I wish sports fans could just stop at "I don't like how this guy's performing anymore, we need to make changes". One of the ugly sides of sports fandom for me is how far fans will take it online against their own damn players, when they turn on them after performance slides.

So distasteful and rude. Yeah, yeah, they get paid lots and should be able to handle it and all that. To me, they're still human beings at the end of the day. Ugly stuff.
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Hiller not good. That's obvious.

Gaudreau and Bennett get points. I'm happy.

I really think even if they end up with the 1st overall pick they should take one of the Finn's. They would fit in perfectly with this team and is exactly what's missing.
You might be right but you need to trade down in that scenario and try and pick up an extra asset. If you can't get a deal done you draft the best player and that is Mathews.
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The other two were passes from goal line or behind to the slot.

50/50 chance at best for the goalie on either.

I don't even like Hiller

But quoting single game sv % grinds my gears. It is not statistically significant
Have it your way then. Hillers overall yearly stats


GPI 20. GAA 3.27. Sv%.886. SA 537 GA 57

Out of those 20 games he was pulled in 3. Currently sits at 59th worst . Ortio is sitting at 60 .
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I wish sports fans could just stop at "I don't like how this guy's performing anymore, we need to make changes". One of the ugly sides of sports fandom for me is how far fans will take it online against their own damn players, when they turn on them after performance slides.

So distasteful and rude. Yeah, yeah, they get paid lots and should be able to handle it and all that. To me, they're still human beings at the end of the day. Ugly stuff.
How is it any different from being called into the office and having the boss chew a piece out of your rear end for not doing your job or worse getting let go because you can no longer meet the standards being asked of your employer?
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I wish sports fans could just stop at "I don't like how this guy's performing anymore, we need to make changes". One of the ugly sides of sports fandom for me is how far fans will take it online against their own damn players, when they turn on them after performance slides.

So distasteful and rude. Yeah, yeah, they get paid lots and should be able to handle it and all that. To me, they're still human beings at the end of the day. Ugly stuff.
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Well we will definitely have to trade for a goalie. Hiller, Ramo and Ortio are not the answer. on another note I think the last goalie the Flames developed in house was Vernon. Kipper was already 27 when we got him. Goalie development has been a sore point of the org for 30 years. Take Kipper out and the team has had some of the worst goaltending of any team in the league in that stretch I bet.
It's funny because not too long ago I remember goaltending being the strongest area of organizational depth. Immediately after we acquired Ramo it looked like this:

- Ramo, one of the best goalies in the KHL at the time
- Ortio, one of the best goalies in the SM-liiga at the time
- Broissoit - one of the best in the WHL at the time
- Gillies - one of the best in the NCAA at the time

Good thing we added McDonald and Poulin since then, because the "Promise" in that original list has thinned out very quickly.
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lol at all the Turek defenders.
Turek took a pay cut to stay with the team. He had a great string of about 10 games to start a season once. How can people even compare Hiller to Turek.

The one interview I've seen of Hiller this year was him saying something along the lines of "I don't know what it takes to start. I won the last two games I played. It's my contract year." That sort of response tells you he's a 'me me me' sort of player. Bye Bye Hiller.
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well that would be insane...AM is going #1

I suppose you could trade down if the deal was right
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You might be right but you need to trade down in that scenario and try and pick up an extra asset. If you can't get a deal done you draft the best player and that is Mathews.
Yeah you guys are right, trading down might be the better option if a team at 2 or 3 would be willing to do so. Not that I'd complain about Mathews if we took him at 1, but those Finns are really attractive. If we get any of the top 3 I'd be thrilled.
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I wish sports fans could just stop at "I don't like how this guy's performing anymore, we need to make changes". One of the ugly sides of sports fandom for me is how far fans will take it online against their own damn players, when they turn on them after performance slides.

So distasteful and rude. Yeah, yeah, they get paid lots and should be able to handle it and all that. To me, they're still human beings at the end of the day. Ugly stuff.
Yeah,you're right.Calling out an amateur level performance in a professional sport is just going to cause some hurt feelings,let's just pass out "great effort" ribbons and lollipops and ice cream to everyone instead and tell everyone winning doesn't matter,its really about nurturing and caring and feeling good about themselves ...
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