PGT: USA 5 - Canada 3

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Bouw N Arrow

I find it pretty weak that nobody is giving the American's credit tonite. They made their breaks.

Well you could have put Avalanche uniforms on them tonight as they got outplayed for the majority of the game but got bailed out by great goaltending, capitalized on their few chances and got some good breaks. Avalanche tend to not get too much credit around here for their horseshoe act.

[Racki]

I haven't been to impressed with Getzlaf either. I wonder if Jeff Carter at 100 per cent might have been a better option?

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

And seriously, WTF is Corey Perry doing out there as the extra man?

I have been re-watching that play at the end with the empty netter, and I just can't process what was going through his mind. It seems like he was checking for support, but why then? It seems to me that he knew Kesler was there even if he didn't know how close. You have to be strong on the puck and make the safe play.

I get that that was not the play that cost us the game, but it didn't help. And a real brainfart for a player as highly regarded as Corey Perry.

Just watched it again, and it doesn't compute at all.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by iggysback05

I haven't been to impressed with Getzlaf either. I wonder if Jeff Carter at 100 per cent might have been a better option?

Couldn't be worse. Carter was playing his best hockey of the season just before the Olympic break.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Ro

Yup.

But looking at my little chart there, I think I screwed up- if Finland wins by a couple goals, the Czechs would get the #4 seed instead of Sweden. So a lot really does rest on this late game.

That said, it looks like failing to get 3 points in the SWI game might have really cost Canada- they could have been the #4 seed with a regulation win in that game.

Here's my conspiracy theory.

If Sweden wins tonight they get the #2 seed.
Being #2 means going into the Canada-Russia half of the draw.

I don't think Sweden wants to win this game.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Here's my conspiracy theory.

If Sweden wins tonight they get the #2 seed.
Being #2 means going into the Canada-Russia half of the draw.

I don't think Sweden wants to win this game.

Sweden can get the #1 seed with a win by 6

[zamler]

Has there been any real standouts for the Canadians so far? Crosby has been more or less terrible most of the time. Iginla maybe?

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf

Sweden can get the #1 seed with a win by 6

Not bloody likely

I'd tank if I were Sweden. Send the USA, Canada, Slovakia and Russia into the other half.

[HPLovecraft]

Originally Posted by zamler

Has there been any real standouts for the Canadians so far? Crosby has been more or less terrible most of the time. Iginla maybe?

Heatley's been about it.

[Henry Fool]

If Finland loses 12-1, I'm blaming it on GirlySports. Talk about jinxing it!

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by zamler

Has there been any real standouts for the Canadians so far? Crosby has been more or less terrible most of the time. Iginla maybe?

Heatley's done what was expected. Weber has been probably the best all around defenseman which probably is an inditement on poor play of some of the others. Doughty has shown some more offensive creativity than any other defenseman. Toews has looked all right in limited action. Team's been pretty underwhelming as a group though.

[BigRed]

Originally Posted by Patrick

I disagree. He looks outmatched and his constant inability to use a 1 timer on the PP when he gets sweet 1 timer feeds is very frustrating to watch. IMO, he should not be here.Maybe in 4 years but there are other Candian D better than him right now not on this team.

I believe you were watching the KHL tier 4 game on a different channel, where a player named D'ohtie played the game in tennis shoes. Because you couldn't have been watching tonight's game.

Drew Doughty has been outstanding -- very physical, defensively responsible, sharp, quick decision making in the offensive zone, and some sick freakin' moves.

If you'd take Green, Phaneuf or anyone else over Doughty, then you'd be just plain wrong.

[moon]

Originally Posted by zamler

Has there been any real standouts for the Canadians so far? Crosby has been more or less terrible most of the time. Iginla maybe?

I think that Morrow has done a great job at doing what he was brought in to do. He certainly hasn't been the best forward but he has played his role perfectly.

Heatley is probably the closest thing to a standout but a late goal in the last two games would probably have been needed to really put him in that category.

Crosby has been anything but terrible out there and easily one of the better forwards.

Iginla not close to being a standout. A decent game against Norway doesn't do it in my view.

[Racki]

I was starting to worry that it was my (our) Flames bias that has made so many of us angry with Babcock's use of Iginla so I checked some other message boards to get a more objective feel for it.

A poster from Bulgaria was curious as to why the Canadian coach kept #12 off of the ice when he seemed to really have so much chemistry with Nash and Crosby.

Do our Canuck fan posters agree?

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by moon

I think that Morrow has done a great job at doing what he was brought in to do. He certainly hasn't been the best forward but he has played his role perfectly.

Heatley is probably the closest thing to a standout but a late goal in the last two games would probably have been needed to really put him in that category.

Crosby has been anything but terrible out there and easily one of the better forwards.

Iginla not close to being a standout. A decent game against Norway doesn't do it in my view.

Crosby has had flashes but at times he's looked pretty bad IMO. He's been nowhere near a standout and more of a disappointment when you consider he's been given every opportunity to succeed compared to limited ice time of others.

[La Flames Fan]

Originally Posted by flip

Never thought I'd be begging for Lou to get more playing time but he was clearly the better goalie. As much as I hate that man, at least he wouldn't have single handedly lost us the game.

Never thought I would say that either, but I totally agree. Lou should get the start.

[moon]

Originally Posted by BigRed

Drew Doughty has been outstanding -- very physical, defensively responsible, sharp, quick decision making in the offensive zone, and some sick freakin' moves.

If you'd take Green, Phaneuf or anyone else over Doughty, then you'd be just plain wrong.

Doughty has been a big reason for at least 3 of the goals against and has been very shaky defensively.

He has done some nice things but I certainly agree with Patrick (and it hurts to type that) he has been brutal on the one timers on the PP. Numerous times he has been set up for perfect shots and he can't get them off.

Throw in the terrible spin-o-rama pass to nobody when he had a clear shot on net in OT and I would say he has at best been marginal.

Great upside but still way too many mistakes to be considered anything close to outstanding.

[zamler]

Heatley yes I agree has been very solid. Hard to tell with Iginla, he doesn't play enough. I don't think Crosby has been great at all except for a few flashes of brilliance. Not terrible though.

Erick is right, as a team things have not come together. There's still time though, barely.

[Mad Mel]

I just thanked a moon post. FML.

[flamesaresmokin]

Originally Posted by Jesse834

If Iggy is not on the top line vs. the Germans. I will drive to Vancouver and rip Babcock a new one. He is put on the ice and surprise a chance and a goal.

Please. Iginla had two good shifts.

This tournament will not be won or lost on iginla's shoulders. It will be lost when we start an inferior goaltender who makes idiotic plays all game.