2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[Bleeding Red]

Originally Posted by iloveicedhockey

To Toronto:
Tanev (50% retained)
Lindholm (50% retained)

To Calgary:
2024 5th round pick
2027 future considerations

Fixed your post, TML fan.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

SuperMatt mentioned Vegas earlier, and I wouldn't be surprised if they do something. They'll want to fend off the Oilers, and unlike most GM's MacCrimmon is not a coward when it comes to trading prospects or picks. Can't see them sitting back if there's good immediate help available.

Flames were right to trade Zadorov, he checked out after that Toronto game. Sure he could have helped...but he had made up his mind that he wanted to leave. Moving on from guys like that fine by me.

Vegas just doesn't have a lot of prospect capital.
They do have picks though.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Bleeding Red

Any conversation with the leafs begins with Conroy reminding Tre & Shanahan about the Brett Hull for Rob Ramage & Wamsley trade - This trade led directly to a SC. You want a shot at a cup and you think Tanev is your guy, no problem - Matthew Knies. Any hesitation by Tre, hang up.

I would prefer to trade Tanev (or any of the others) for peanuts to most any other team than to send him (them) to Toronto for anything less than Knies.

You aren't getting Knies for Tanev.

And Tre and Shanahan can remind Conroy about a million other trades that did not lead to a Stanley Cup.

Tanev needs to be traded for the best return, emotions need to be taken out of it.

[stemit14]

The more I think about it, I think it’s unlikely for Treliving to trade with the flames for one of their UFAs. I don’t recall Treliving ever giving up a first round pick for a rental and I think the flames won’t trade either Lindholm or Tanev to Toronto without their first round pick being in the mix.

[Bleeding Red]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

You aren't getting Knies for Tanev.

And Tre and Shanahan can remind Conroy about a million other trades that did not lead to a Stanley Cup.
Tanev needs to be traded for the best return, emotions need to be taken out of it.

That'll be the TML creed after we send them Tanev (50% retained) for a 3rd, they go on a bender and win the SC, then resign him at a hometown discount.

Meantime everyone's pointing at the Flames and laughing at their "asset management".

Again, I get that Knies is "untouchable" for TML. No problem. Moving on. I'd rather get the worst next offer than send Tanev to TML. Send him to any other Eastern Conference for a 5th.

Tre must be feeling some heat. TML is only in a wild card position today and in honest danger of being on the outside looking in. Fleece him.

[stemit14]

I wonder if Dallas will be in on any of Calgary’s players? I think they could really use Lindholm and/or Tanev for example. Would not be shocked if they step up and pay a first round pick+ for one of them.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I'd happily take their 1st for this year.
And then you are looking at guys like Easton Cowen, Fraser Mitten. Not much. The jewel is Knies but they aren't trading him.
I would try to get them to include Nick Robertson.

The problem with the Leafs is a month ago they were saying their 1st, Cowan, Knies, and Minten were all unavailable. Maybe since then BT has realized he is going to have to soften up on that stance or he is going to have to stand pat.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by stemit14

I wonder if Dallas will be in on any of Calgary’s players? I think they could really use Lindholm and/or Tanev for example. Would not be shocked if they step up and pay a first round pick+ for one of them.

I think if Dallas targets a Flame it will be the hometown guy having an unreal year.

[NegativeSpace]

Originally Posted by Bleeding Red

Fixed your post, TML fan.

I know it is green, but TML fan appears to forget about the salary cap.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by dammage79

You deal with the Leafs for Lindholm, IMO, you don't touch anything without Liljgren and Knies. BT wants his boys, squeeze him. Otherwise pound sand buddy.

Absolutely overshoot any trade talks with Toronto.

Liljegren was picked one pick after Valimaki. He has somehow accomplished less at the NHL level than Valimaki. He is not really a prospect and definitely a player I don’t have much interest in. Knies at least has value but I don’t think him alone gets Lindholm.

The two players you mentioned is definitely not an “overshoot”.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

So you're saying that NHL GMs look at votes by journalists to determine how good a player is like dino7 is suggesting? Come on, that's just stupid. Teams know if a player is good on the defensive side of the puck and whether a player is getting votes because of a great offensive year rather than on solid defensive play. Therein lies part of the problem with the Selke.
You need big offensive numbers to stand a chance. But coming in second in a vote doesn't mean a damn thing. Teams evaluate players on their play and don't give a soft #### about what journalists have to say in votes for trophies.

I would say they would be more interested in what he's done since and how his game has kind of gone the wrong way? I think to teams that may be more concerning. On the arm chair QB side of things, do you think he equals the eight total votes he got last year with the journalists? More importantly, do you think that changes whether Lindholm can play the game both ways? I don't, and I know teams don't care about silly end of year votes.

That is not what I said...being a finalist for a major NHL award doesn't just happen by accident. Players are often valued based on reputation. Newsflash, GMs aren't all that smart. They have owners and fans to please, pressure to make the playoffs and win rounds. All these things are factors.

Do you think they just go by current point totals or something?

You are out here saying I'm "Nuts" for saying Lindholm has as much or more value than Horvat. Lets see.

I notice you also think Markstom can't get a good return or any other Flames player...bit of a trend

[Naitix]

Not sure if been mentioned, but I heard Leafs are in the mix on Markstrom. We will see if they are actually willing to part with anything significant

[dino7c]

Leafs have the same record as the Flames in a "window" year...they have zero untouchables if they actually want to make a move that improves their team

[Bleeding Red]

Originally Posted by Naitix

Not sure if been mentioned, but I heard Leafs are in the mix on Markstrom

Good luck.

That'll have to be a 3 team retention deal with Knies + 1st + 1 of Minten, Abruzzese, or Niemela.

Next thing we know, the Leafs are in on Coleman, too.

[Naitix]

Originally Posted by Bleeding Red

Good luck.

That'll have to be a 3 team retention deal with Knies + 1st + 1 of Minten, Abruzzese, or Niemela.

Next thing we know, the Leafs are in on Coleman, too.

Ya to be fair, while Tre was our GM, was there a major trade in the league that he wasn't in the mix on. He loves to kick the tires

[dino7c]

Leafs were in on Zadorov too

Blue balls Brad

[Naitix]

Tre: Hears NJ and some other teams are interested in Markstrom
Also Tre: Let me see if they want a 5th for him

[iloveicedhockey]

I honestly don't think the green text was even needed.

[Buzzard]

Originally Posted by Naitix

Ya to be fair, while Tre was our GM, was there a major trade in the league that he wasn't in the mix on. He loves to kick the tires

Hardest working GM in the league, so they say.

[browntrout]

If it takes a 7-8 year deal to sign a player north of 8 million....he is just not worth that. His age, lack of offensive pop is what concerns me. I would offer him 7 million at 7 years. I don't see a team offering him 8 million over 7 years, in a contract year his numbers are unimpressive