[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Well I suppose the head coach could not work out and that's probably going to be a sticking point with fans given his first coach bombed. A GM can make all the right moves on his roster but if he can't get the head coach hire right it's likely all for not. I personally think Peters is going to be an improvement on Gulutzan but we will have to wait and see if he's going to be better than just good.

Yep, I've generally not had a problem with most of his trades and signings and I think he's done pretty well with a bunch of them, but the coach and the team performance and results have sucked. A good roster on paper that plays boring hockey and either finishes well out of the playoff race or is a first round sweep is a failure. I hope this year is better, but I don't have faith in him as a team builder.

People also tend to get caught up in the euphoria and excitement of new players and change, but is the team really going to be a lot better with Lindholm, Hannafin, Ryan and Neal? I would guess a lot of fans who are now excited had never heard of most of them before their acquisition and still don't know much about them. Some people call hires a win before the results are even starting to come in. Even the Brouwer signing had these comments at the time:

Spoiler!

Originally Posted by dammage79

4x4.5. Thats great. Downright robbery considering the insanity surrounding similar players. I like it.

Originally Posted by devo22

great addition. Now hopefully the numbers make sense ...

EDIT: term is good. 4.5m a bit higher than I hoped for.

Originally Posted by Galakanokis

4 years at just over $4mil? I'm on with that.

Originally Posted by ricosuave

thats a bit high, but as an upgrade on colbourne, its not too bad

Originally Posted by btimbit

That's way better than I was expecting. Not bad, not bad at all. Little pricy but at the expense of not handing him 5+ years. I'm really big on Brouwer too, watched a lot of the Blues in the playoffs. Guy was a beast

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Gaudreau - Monahan - Brouwer

There's our first line.

Originally Posted by The Professor

Not bad. I'm pleased.

Originally Posted by Toonage

Very happy with this.

Originally Posted by dammage79

WOW! The sour puss faces in here on this. Insanity.

Originally Posted by The Professor

You guys are crazy. It's the shortest term and the lowest average of any deal I've seen today.

Originally Posted by AC

I'm fine with it.

Now trade Wideman.

Originally Posted by TBone290

Believe in the Process people!

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Will be a fantastic compliment player, not as defensive as Frolik but more of a bruiser. Throw him on Monahan or Bennett's right wing and you're looking at a solid 20 goal 40 point season.

Money is high, term is fine.

Originally Posted by hockey.modern

Pretty decent. So in order to beat the Blues, we have to be them? I like it. ANA next please.

Originally Posted by dammage79

4x4.5. Thats great. Downright robbery considering the insanity surrounding similar players. I like it.

Originally Posted by devo22

great addition. Now hopefully the numbers make sense ...

EDIT: term is good. 4.5m a bit higher than I hoped for.

Originally Posted by Galakanokis

4 years at just over $4mil? I'm on with that.

Originally Posted by ricosuave

thats a bit high, but as an upgrade on colbourne, its not too bad

Originally Posted by btimbit

That's way better than I was expecting. Not bad, not bad at all. Little pricy but at the expense of not handing him 5+ years. I'm really big on Brouwer too, watched a lot of the Blues in the playoffs. Guy was a beast

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Gaudreau - Monahan - Brouwer

There's our first line.

Originally Posted by The Professor

Not bad. I'm pleased.

Originally Posted by Toonage

Very happy with this.

Originally Posted by dammage79

WOW! The sour puss faces in here on this. Insanity.

Originally Posted by The Professor

You guys are crazy. It's the shortest term and the lowest average of any deal I've seen today.

Originally Posted by AC

I'm fine with it.

Now trade Wideman.

Originally Posted by TBone290

Believe in the Process people!

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Will be a fantastic compliment player, not as defensive as Frolik but more of a bruiser. Throw him on Monahan or Bennett's right wing and you're looking at a solid 20 goal 40 point season.

Money is high, term is fine.

Originally Posted by btimbit

I think people will change their tune after watching him for a bit.

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

My reaction is that this deal is ok. About what I would expect for this level of UFA. Not a steal but not horrible. I think he will do well here

Originally Posted by devo22

the reactions here are crazy. It's a decent signing IMO. Term is good, AAV a bit too high, but hey, that's the July 1 tax.

RW suddenly looks pretty good. Frolik, Brouwer and Chiasson give the Flames some great depth and versatility.

Originally Posted by Yamer

My first impression wasn't great, but this is a guy that will:

-Be able to play up and down the lineup, much like Frolik
-Has a right shot and plays naturally on the right side
-Has the ability to score 20 playing a reduced role (so let's see what he can do when given more opportunity)
-Definitely brings the edge that we always wanted from guys like Bollig and Ferland
-On that point, plays BIG
-Can play both special teams minutes
-Will most likely play to contract for 3 of those 4 years (depending on durability)

And most of all, he WANTS to be here. He is building a home in Calgary for the long term.

I like it!

Originally Posted by ResAlien

Can some post a HERO chart for me?

Also, teach me how to read a HERO chart. And what one is. And why that's the current flavour of the week for how we determine player worth. Are we not using Corsi anymore? Wasn't there another one? I was told there would be no math.

Term is great, that'd why the money is a bit high. Term is the killer for these, the money is far easier to resolve if it's bad in a few years. I like it.

Basically, the proof of the pudding is in the eating. I hope it will be sweet, but what has been served up by Tre in the prior courses doesn't have me excited.