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Originally Posted by jammies
Titanic wasn't all that great, but it was far better than this inept mess. The acting was bad and the script was far too reliant on ridiculously improbable coincidences. The new Vader-y guy looks like an underfed hipster, so add terrible casting to the list of sins. The effects were cool, but so are the effects in any big-budget movie nowadays, so no points for that. Nothing about this movie was original or interesting, it wasn't just an acknowledged rehash of the first Star Wars film, it was essentially a reboot done with even more wooden characters, no Alec Guinness, and Harrison Ford's zombie shambling around the set.
Also annoying - why are the rebels fine with the continued enslavement of sentients like BB-8? Apparently freeing the galaxy doesn't include all conscious beings, just those based on meat. It's two groups of fascists fighting for control, and at least one has a modicum of fashion sense. Let's hope they win out in episode VIII and free us from ever having to see those hideous orange flight suits again.
I can't be the only one who thought this was trash. Admittedly, I didn't think much of any of the other Star Wars films either, but at least the first two were original for their time, and had the iconic Vader and the anti-hero Solo to make them memorable. Nothing about this was memorable. Much of it was just bad.
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Originally Posted by Matata
I expressed similar concerns and was chewed out for 3 pages. Brace yourself.
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Anyone who goes to see a movie that is generally well received, knowing full well that they will hate it, deserves backlash because it just seems like trolling.
jammies straight up says he doesn't like Star Wars. Why would he even go see this then?
Moreover, I think that people who have very strict tastes in movies and hate 90% of everything they see probably have no business going to see a big budget action movie and then complaining about it later like they are surprised it wasn't the Godfather.
I would consider myself a person with a fairly narrow taste in movies, I can't stand most Hollywood blockbusters like Transformers, but when I do go see a piece of trash I generally don't act like I'm shocked that it sucks. So when posters come into a Star Wars thread, the most beloved film franchise of all time and one of the most beloved pop culture franchises of all time, and act like they just saw "Battlefield Earth" then it's a little bit expected that people are going to be defensive.
I also think it shows a complete lack of acknowledgement of the film itself and the genre it occupies. This is a tentpole franchise sequel. That is like the holy trinity of guaranteed crap. I highly doubt anyone is going to argue TFA deserves to be mentioned on a greatest of all time list. However, compared to its contemporaries, trash like Transformers, TMNT, Man of Steel, the prequels etc, it was Citizen Kane x 1000.
All that being said, I actually agree somewhat about Adam Driver being a little too emo for my liking. He almost needed to keep the helmet on the entire film. Then again after reading this thread, many people made arguments that he was meant to be a whiny emo bitch to show how far he was from achieving what Vader did, and that made me change my tune a bit.