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Originally Posted by jammies
Blaming "Islam" for anything is another example of how people confuse generalities with specifics. "Islam" is far too amorphous, huge, and often contradictory in its parts for anyone to be able to attribute causality to it. You can talk about movements within Islam in this fashion, if they are coherent enough, but even then you have to be careful not to fall into error by speaking to the specific from the inchoate general.
The essence of bigotry is to assign attributes to an individual conforming to stereotypes attached to a group of which that person is a part. Creating those stereotypes is, therefore, a necessary first step for every aspiring bigot, and thus statements like "Islam breeds violence" or "Islam excuses violence" are precursors to bigotry, at the very least. If you don't like being lumped in with bigots, avoid such nonsensical junk.
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And yet I never said anything like that. All I said was the hate runs deep in that culture. That is my observation. Doesn't anyone think it's sad that there was RCMP surveillance on the Muslim Association of Canada in the first place? Have you been to the MAC website? Now I'm not condemning the people, MAC, or any Canadians breeding anything but the hatred is so deep in the culture that even in a Canadian based religious, educational organization that proclaims they are opposed to violence has to be watched. That's how far reaching even organizations like this have to be watched. Now I get that they could be innocent of any wrongdoing but the RCMP was certainly tipped of something (unless you believe they are racist) and it's just very unfortunate that it's come to this kind of stuff even in Canada and that has nothing to do with you me or anyone being a racist. It's the reality that the authorities have to continually carry out this kind of stuff in our country. My statement was a comment on how it's so deeply routed that we have to have what appears to be a peaceful, educational association under surveillance which is in fact what happened and the whole thing degenerates into me being racist. In part because some here are overly sensitive and in part because some dislike me so much they can't pass up any opportunity to jump on the bandwagon.
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However, the 113-page RCMP warrant shows the Mississauga group was under police surveillance for alleged terrorist financing as recently as last year. The warrant mentions an alleged transaction that took place at Al-Radwah Mosque, a MAC facility in north-end Montreal.
"(REDACTED) was observed on March 6, 2014, exiting the MAC location in Montreal carrying an 8 1/2 by 14-inch yellow envelope in his hand," the warrant reads. "It is possible that (REDACTED) is still accepting donations on behalf of IRFAN from the MAC in Montreal."
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I get that some of you guys don't like me and I'm fine with that but you are not being fair here at all. In a way it's kind of ironic actually given how some of you have a deep dislike for me and never a pass up a chance to take a shot at me. That doesn't make you people bad or racist, that's your opinion and that's life.