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Originally Posted by GGG
The worst case is abortion law. If a man wants to raise the child and the women wants to abort the child. The baby is killed. No questions asked.
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If the man wants to carry a fetus around for nine months, let it sap him of his energy, calcium, other nutrients, etc, then by all means, he has a say in the matter. Until a man can carry a fetus to term, he has no say in the matter.
(Obviously committed relationships will have some variance, but the final say, in the end, goes to the woman. Her body.)
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Originally Posted by Tinordi
The dark underlying sexism is probably the ugliest part of the CP community.
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It's not just part of the CP community, it's part of the world as a whole. For ages, men have treated women as the weaker sex, and now finally, after a whole lot of challenging battles and entirely too many years, there are factors that show that finally there IS some equality between men and women, now men feel like they're being "discriminated against."
Are there cases of abuse where the woman abuses the man? Of course there are. Are there adequate resources for men to get help? Probably not. But there is also a constant attack on women, especially in the US. They want to shut down Planned Parenthood, which while performing some abortions, is mostly there to provide low income women with sexual healthcare, birth control, annual exams, STD screening--things that are vital to women's health, but male legislators are always trying to take these things away.
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Originally Posted by Boshi
I've got no sympathy for those who come into hard decisions because they didn't practice safe sex. That being said.. if they were in a committed relationship and suddenly the girlfriend/wife changed her mind (let's assume both parties had discussed having a child at length) I would certainly understand and feel for the boyfriend/husband. I don't think that is a scenario that plays out too often--but then again I could be wrong. *shrugs*
Use condoms and birth control and there is no issue.
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In what realm are condoms and birth control 100%? Both still have a low risk factor involved, even when used in tandem. The only "non-issue" for pregnancy is if one abstains entirely. Or just has oral sex.
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Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck
Is misandry a problem in the west? Nooooooo.....
If the situation was reversed and a man on a talk show was making jokes about a woman who was brutally mutilated, there would be national outrage.
Men have always been considered disposable. Sperm=plentiful, egg=rare.
I think misandry has been a natural result of modern feminism. You see it everywhere in advertising and entertainment.
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Just this summer, Daniel Tosh made a horrible joke about a woman being raped, and while women spoke out against him, he was lauded for his "creativity" by men in the industry. Women are told to "not be so sensitive" about a topic which affects 1 in 4 of us. Men do make jokes about these things, all the time, and we're expected to shut up and deal with it.
The claim of misandry is one that makes me equally amused and enraged. Look at simple examples: on those TV shows where the man is dumb and bumbling--look at the wife he's got. Is she ever less than an 8 on the scale 1-10? Never. Look at movies--a guy like Seth Rogen, from Zack and Miri...he bags a girl who looks like Elizabeth Banks. But an overweight, average looking woman in a movie? She's comedic fodder, the "ugly friend" or the sidekick, something of that nature. How often does the average girl get the hot guy in a tv show or movie?
I hate Kristen Stewart, but look at this latest "scandal." She sleeps with a director, okay, fine. She's young and has a boyfriend, sleeps with a married man. She's turned into a villain. The director she slept with is married with children, and he gets none of the blame. She loses her role for the next film, he keeps his job for it. Commercials aimed at women all express the idea that all we should be worrying about is cleaning the house or keeping our figure. Men's commercials are about power and success, ours are about swiffering the kitchen floor until it shines!
A woman who has multiple sexual partners is a slut, a man who has multiple sexual partners is awesome. If a girl wants to wear boy clothes and play sports, she's a tomboy, it's harmless! But if a boy likes dolls or dressup, his parents take him to a therapist, because hey, why would anyone want to be like the weaker sex?
It happens every single day in a billion subtle ways, and all men see is that GASP finally women have some actual power in society. It's still not equal, not even close, and the idea that "misandry" is a problem is an absolute joke.