France bans the burqa

[T@T]

The French senate approved Tuesday a law banning any veils that cover the face -- including the burqa, the full-body covering worn by some Muslim women -- making France the first European country to plan such a measure.

Good. I hope canada follows and starts the ban of ceremonial swords and other stupid religious items...

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe...ex.html?hpt=T1

[CaptainCrunch]

I hope France is up to date on riot control techniques, because its going to get ugly.

[DuffMan]

good idea. I like it.

[alltherage]

Dem Franc's got some balls eh? Pissing off a pretty aggressive bunch...

*waits for sh**storm of controversial posts*

[Resolute 14]

Given the damage it produces on those rules which allow the life in community, ensure the dignity of the person and equality between sexes, this practice, even if it is voluntary, cannot be tolerated in any public place," the French government said when it sent the measure to parliament in May.

As much as I agree with this, the solution that the men who own their women will come up with will be to simply imprison the women in the home.

[Cheese]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I hope France is up to date on riot control techniques, because its going to get ugly.

cuz we all knowz that rioting or bombing or the threat of the same is what religion is all about anyways!

[3 Justin 3]

I don't get why this is good. Let Muslims be Muslims, I really don't care about any of this religious crap anymore. It is all non-sense, let them do what they want.

[Locke]

Wow. That was some kind of vote!

[Flash Walken]

I would be more than happy if France outlawed every public display of religious observance.

Religion is like sex. Keep that bizarre in your house you freaks.

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by 3 Justin 3

I don't get why this is good. Let Muslims be Muslims, I really don't care about any of this religious crap anymore. It is all non-sense, let them do what they want.

well, let them do what they want in their own country.

[Sainters7]

Are they talking about only the face-covering, or even the one that just goes on your head? If it's the latter, that seems pretty extreme. That's going to get real messy.

[Gozer]

Originally Posted by DuffMan

well, let them do what they want in their own country.

It is possible for a Muslim to consider France his own country.

[kipperfan]

Originally Posted by 3 Justin 3

I don't get why this is good. Let Muslims be Muslims, I really don't care about any of this religious crap anymore. It is all non-sense, let them do what they want.

Problem is, when we let "Muslims be Muslim" we aren't giving Muslim women a chance to even be people! I am of the opinion that in progressive democratic societies (such as France, Canada, etc.) we have a responsibility to stand up for all of our citizens, despite what "god" they may pray to.

These people want to be "Muslim" and degradate the rights of 50% of society? No problem, they can head back to Afghanistan or whatever 3rd world hell hole they crawled out of anytime they'd like.

Good on the French, hopefully the rest of the western world will follow and we can stop cowtowing to the discriminatory ways of (a large portion of) the Muslim people.

[blankall]

Really surprising that only one senate member voted against this.

To tell you the truth this really is overbreadth. I agree that there has to be limits on when face coverings can be worn, but a total ban was not necessary. Also, not entirely comfortable with this:

"The law imposes a fine of 150 euros ($190) and/or a citizenship course as punishment for wearing a face-covering veil"

Combined with the recent mass expulsion of Romas, I'm not entirely sure I like where France is headed:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11301307

[SeeBass]

there is a bomb scare at the Eiffel tower tonight

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by Gozer

It is possible for a Muslim to consider France his own country.

not if members of his family wear burqas.

[kipperfan]

Originally Posted by blankall

Really surprising that only one senate member voted against this.

To tell you the truth this really is overbreadth. I agree that there has to be limits on when face coverings can be worn, but a total ban was not necessary. Also, not entirely comfortable with this:

"The law imposes a fine of 150 euros ($190) and/or a citizenship course as punishment for wearing a face-covering veil"

Combined with the recent mass expulsion of Romas, I'm not entirely sure I like where France is headed:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11301307

I love the citzenship course idea. Problem is it should be the offenders husband who has to attend the course, not the offender. Clearly these people need a course to help them understand why the Birka is being banned and to educate them on basic human rights and freedoms.

[Cheese]

Originally Posted by SeeBass

there is a bomb scare at the Eiffel tower tonight

Thatll scare the beJesus out of them!

[SeeBass]

Originally Posted by Cheese

Thatll scare the beJesus out of them!

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[mykalberta]

I dont mind if people wear it, I just dont like it when they think its their right to wear it in a place that requires them see your face. Religious freedoms no matter the religion should not over-ride laws/rules in public places.