Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Go Back   Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community > Main Forums > The Off Topic Forum > Tech Talk
Register Forum Rules FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 01-27-2008, 11:12 PM   #1
photon
The new goggles also do nothing.
 
photon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default Reviews for the ATI 3870 X2 come out

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3209&p=1
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/articl...50aHVzaWFzdA==

This is kind of continued from Nehkara's computer build thread, but didn't want to derail that.

Interesting launch, looks like it's fairly smooth. Price point is about right for the card it seems, which is also nice to see (hopefully the days of $700 video card launch prices are dead).

300W power draw under full load though, that's pretty insane. Though I guess it's less than a true SLI/Crossfire system would be.

EDIT: Lol and still gets crushed by Crysis.
__________________
Uncertainty is an uncomfortable position.
But certainty is an absurd one.
photon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2008, 04:58 AM   #2
Hack&Lube
Atomic Nerd
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

[H]ardocp's review is especially poor on the card because they don't use any benchmarks, only real-world gameplay.

The Anandtech shows better performance and Tom's Hardware seems to show it doing well in Crysis, beating all the other cards in contrast. Read all three to get a better overall picture.
http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/01/...e_fury_maxx_2/

Last edited by Hack&Lube; 01-28-2008 at 05:02 AM.
Hack&Lube is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2008, 05:26 AM   #3
Regorium
First Line Centre
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

About what I expected. Slightly faster than the 8800 Ultra, draws a ton of power, is extremely loud. Since it's only 7-10% faster than the 8800 Ultra at top resolutions, I expect the 9800 Ultra to take back the crown using a single GPU solution in a couple months.

The one surprise is the attractive price. $450 for a top of the line video card is excellent for the consumer. I was expecting $550-$600 for it.
Regorium is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2008, 09:14 AM   #4
Nehkara
Franchise Player
 
Nehkara's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Regorium View Post
About what I expected. Slightly faster than the 8800 Ultra, draws a ton of power, is extremely loud. Since it's only 7-10% faster than the 8800 Ultra at top resolutions, I expect the 9800 Ultra to take back the crown using a single GPU solution in a couple months.

The one surprise is the attractive price. $450 for a top of the line video card is excellent for the consumer. I was expecting $550-$600 for it.
That wouldn't really make much sense. The HD 3870 is $240. The HD 3870 X2 could not be priced more than $480 or people would just buy 2 3870s and run them on crossfire.

That said, it is nice to see that the fastest video card currently on the market is $450.
__________________

Huge thanks to Dion for the signature!
Nehkara is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2008, 10:30 AM   #5
Vulcan
Franchise Player
 
Vulcan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
Exp:
Default

It's at $480 for an HIS card at Memory Express. Prices could be high because of supply and demand.

Here's a Canadian review which gives an impressive 3DMark 06 score.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...gb-review.html
Vulcan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2008, 10:34 AM   #6
Bobblehead
Franchise Player
 
Bobblehead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hack&Lube View Post
[H]ardocp's review is especially poor on the card because they don't use any benchmarks, only real-world gameplay.

The Anandtech shows better performance and Tom's Hardware seems to show it doing well in Crysis, beating all the other cards in contrast. Read all three to get a better overall picture.
http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/01/...e_fury_maxx_2/
I like [H]ard's way of reviewing video cards.

And the power requirements are a bit lower than the 8800 at idle and a bit higher at load.
__________________
"The problem with any ideology is that it gives the answer before you look at the evidence."
—Bill Clinton
"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance--it is the illusion of knowledge."
—Daniel J. Boorstin, historian, former Librarian of Congress
"But the Senator, while insisting he was not intoxicated, could not explain his nudity"
—WKRP in Cincinatti
Bobblehead is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2008, 10:41 AM   #7
Regorium
First Line Centre
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nehkara View Post
That wouldn't really make much sense. The HD 3870 is $240. The HD 3870 X2 could not be priced more than $480 or people would just buy 2 3870s and run them on crossfire.

That said, it is nice to see that the fastest video card currently on the market is $450.
Well, if you buy 2 3870's, you'd have to get a crossfire enabled motherboard for one which adds to the price (perhaps another $100?). Also for people just looking to upgrade from an older PCI-E card, this would be the top of the line solution as most motherboards don't have two PCI-E slots and aren't crossfire enabled.

Personally I like single card solutions far better than either SLI/Crossfire and would easily pay a 50-100 dollar premium for the X2 over 2 3870's.
Regorium is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2008, 01:03 AM   #8
Hack&Lube
Atomic Nerd
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobblehead View Post
I like [H]ard's way of reviewing video cards.

And the power requirements are a bit lower than the 8800 at idle and a bit higher at load.
There's a big debate right now, even Anandtech's guy posted an article arguing against the [H]ardOCP method. In many ways, how they do "highest playable settings" is very subjective. I think people prefer empirical numbers.
Hack&Lube is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2008, 08:37 AM   #9
Bobblehead
Franchise Player
 
Bobblehead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hack&Lube View Post
There's a big debate right now, even Anandtech's guy posted an article arguing against the [H]ardOCP method. In many ways, how they do "highest playable settings" is very subjective. I think people prefer empirical numbers.
Sure, but the average person probably couldn't tell the difference between that and lower settings. Like HDTV - I'd be willing to bet 90%+ of people couldn't tell the difference between 1080i and 1080p, so people wanting empirical numbers to compare them may be true, but does it really matter? If I don't have a big monitor, should I care if a card doesn't play on 1920x1200 at max settings?

When it comes to gaming, all I really care about is if game X is playable with a card. I don't really care if my card has an average of 3 fps less than another card; I couldn't see the visual difference if I tried. As long as it works. I think that is what [H]ardOCP is getting at. I still read numerous reviews to get an overall picture, but at the end of the day all that really matters is if the card will do what I want it to do.
__________________
"The problem with any ideology is that it gives the answer before you look at the evidence."
—Bill Clinton
"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance--it is the illusion of knowledge."
—Daniel J. Boorstin, historian, former Librarian of Congress
"But the Senator, while insisting he was not intoxicated, could not explain his nudity"
—WKRP in Cincinatti
Bobblehead is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:18 AM.

Calgary Flames
2024-25




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Calgarypuck 2021 | See Our Privacy Policy