Airport Security

[jolinar of malkshor]

So the other day I was going through airport security, the people who take away your lighters and nail clippers, an I notice they are doing the same to the pilots. WHAT???? Why even bother screening the pilots, if they want to destroy the plane they will crash it into something. Do we really have stupid people making these rules?

[FurnaceFace]

What if the pilot wants someone else to destroy some other plane hmmmm?

And of course we have stupid pepole making these rules, for example you can't take nail clippers on the plane but you can take a metal pen which is far more lethal if used properly.

[JBR]

What if they really aren't pilots? They have just cut the real pilot's throat in the washroom and slip by security undetected. They then proceed to change again, go on another flight and BAM!! Ok, I think I just turned into my mother-in-law!

I have a weird airport security story. On September 23, 2001 I was flying back from Seattle to Calgary after watching the Hawks and Broncos game. I checked in very early because I knew security would be very tight a few weeks after 9/11. With time to kill at the gate, I decided to get a bite to eat. I sat at a restaurant and ordered a steak sandwich, which they served to be with a 8" wood handled, sharp as a razor knife. If I were a terrorist, I could have slipped this in my pocket and walked right on the plane! Who needs nailclippers and boxcutters?

[jolinar of malkshor]

Originally Posted by JBR

What if they really aren't pilots? They have just cut the real pilot's throat in the washroom and slip by security undetected. They then proceed to change again, go on another flight and BAM!! Ok, I think I just turned into my mother-in-law!

I have a weird airport security story. On September 23, 2001 I was flying back from Seattle to Calgary after watching the Hawks and Broncos game. I checked in very early because I knew security would be very tight a few weeks after 9/11. With time to kill at the gate, I decided to get a bite to eat. I sat at a restaurant and ordered a steak sandwich, which they served to be with a 8" wood handled, sharp as a razor knife. If I were a terrorist, I could have slipped this in my pocket and walked right on the plane! Who needs nailclippers and boxcutters?

Good point. What about all the glass wear at the bars. Just slip a beer mug into your carry on and walla, very sharp weapon.

[T I M]

As far as security goes, everyone going into the restricted area follow the same rules, and can't take in restricted items as per Transport Canada guidelines. However technicians and trades people are allowed to bring in "justified tools"

[Red Mile Style]

Thanks for the great ideas on how to hijack planes guys.

Metal pen, beer mug, pretending to be a tradesperson or killing the pilot and assuming his identity. Helpful hints, for sure!

[jolinar of malkshor]

Originally Posted by T I M

As far as security goes, everyone going into the restricted area follow the same rules, and can't take in restricted items as per Transport Canada guidelines. However technicians and trades people are allowed to bring in "justified tools"

The point is they shouldn't even worry about the pilots. It makes no sense what so ever. If they have their Transport Canada Security ID then let them be.

[Jayems]

Wouldn't it make sense to take away things from pilots that others could get also and use it against the pilots?

IE: Terrorists takeaway some special knife that the pilot always takes onboard, and then uses it against the pilot to do what he wants.

[icarus]

Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

So the other day I was going through airport security, the people who take away your lighters

They are not supposed to take away your lighters.

[Calgary Flames]

Originally Posted by icarus

They are not supposed to take away your lighters.

I saw them taking lighters from people in Calgary and Vancouver... This was yesterday

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by FurnaceFace

What if the pilot wants someone else to destroy some other plane hmmmm?

And of course we have stupid pepole making these rules, for example you can't take nail clippers on the plane but you can take a metal pen which is far more lethal if used properly.

You want to know stupid....

My brother-in-law was flying on Air Ontario on the company's aniversary, and as a promotion, they were handing out free "Air Ontario" letter openers to all the passengers.

[icarus]

Originally Posted by Calgary Flames

I saw them taking lighters from people in Calgary and Vancouver... This was yesterday

Well if it is a domestic flight then they aren't supposed to unless it is some sort of special terrorist lighter.

http://www.tc.gc.ca/mediaroom/releas.../05-gc006e.htm

Passengers may still carry disposable lighters onto aircraft flying within Canada or to foreign destinations other than the United States.

[Calgary Flames]

I don't know dude, but they had a bin they were chucking them into along with other things like nail files, scisors, ect.

Odd

[Red Mile Style]

Butane lighters are the exception.

My butane lighter was confiscated as it was a "torch".

[steveo]

Originally Posted by fotze

My buddy had to deflate his Germany world cup soccer ball on his return trip. Never know when Beckham will boot it at the pilot.

he'll probably choke and kick it over the plane anyways.

[ericschand]

The biggest airport security surprise I got was last year, travelling
from Calgary to Dallas.

I stuff everything I wanted into my jacket, I want on the plane,
and I want off. No fighting for space to put carry on and such.

Anyways, I get to security, put my keys and coins into the little
dish they give you, and put my jacket onto the x-ray belt.

As I step through the detector, I notice that someone has picked up
my dish, and a couple of others are pointing at me. So now I'm wondering
what's wrong?

So the wand-lady clears me and I go to retrieve my jacket and dish...
which seems to be held hostage for the moment. "Is this your keys
and stuff?" Yeah, it's house/car keys and some money. "This is
yours?" Yes, it's mine. What's the problem?

"Come over here please." ??? Ok, follow him over, and as I do
2 other security come out of nowhere. Now what?!? It's keys...????
"We need to do a physical search, so if you could put your hands
up [on the wall] we can do that."

Now they caught me on a bad day. I went to work early, no lunch, left
late, and was tired, hungry, and very cranky. So I asked why? Why
over a few keys was I going through this??

"You have put your hands up on the wall, and let us search you."

??? Why? I don't understand, and I don't want to be treated like
a criminal with my hands up on a wall.

Now a couple more security guys show up. And now I'm tired, hungry,
cranky and scared. Really scared. After all, over some keys, they
are sending 5 guys to search me?? Did someone at work do something
stupid to my keys to play a joke?? [Aw crap. I'm going to have to
kill someone for this, aren't I?]

Ok, why am I being searched? I have no problem with it, as long as
you tell me why. The one security guy who is going to do the
search looks over at someone, who nods, so he says, "As of <date>
by request of the Dept of Homeland Security from the USA, all
passengers travelling WITHOUT carry-on must be physically
searched."

??? I must have looked confused, so he added, "Look, we really
don't want to upset you or cause you trouble, but we have to,
it's the rules." Ok, fine, but instead of up against the wall, how
about I hold my arms out and you do a serach that way?
They relented and we all went on our way, me still cranky
about it all...and airport sandwiches suck to boot.

The puzzling thing is that the less you carry, the more likelyhood
you are going to be searched?! How warped is that?

Then there was the time just after 9/11 where I was 1cm of
search from being tossed into jail...and didn't even know it.
I get all the fun in airports.

ers

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by ericschand

Ok, why am I being searched? I have no problem with it, as long as
you tell me why. The one security guy who is going to do the
search looks over at someone, who nods, so he says, "As of <date>
by request of the Dept of Homeland Security from the USA, all
passengers travelling WITHOUT carry-on must be physically
searched."

That's pretty bad. I never bring carry-on luggage with me. I'll have to remember that if I ever travel to the U.S.

It's such a big contrast from the last time I flew out of Vancouver and there were a couple of jack-asses who jokingly tried to sneak through the metal detector, and when they were caught, they weren't even searched.

[CaramonLS]

Yesterday I went through 2 security checkpoints, both wearing the same clothes.

First one in Calgary, didn't beep off - then in Vancouver I did. I was only wearing Jeans, a belt and a T-Shirt as well. Guess in some airports they ramped up the sensitivity.

[4X4]

OK, wanna talk stupid? When I went to the Canada Germany game in Torino, there was airport-like security to get into the olympic grounds. In my (x-rayed) bag was a corkscrew with the cutter thing, and on my keychain was a swiss army knife. Also attached to my bag was one of those clips that you get for free (everywhere) that say 'not for climbing'. You know, those clips that you use to hang your keys on your belt, or in my case, to hang my mp3 player.

Guess which one of the three items was confiscated?

[Eastern Girl]

Awhile ago, when I came from Toronto back here to Ottawa, I was practically undressed at the security check-in. I had to undo my belt and my pants, which I have had to do before because my belt always sets the alarm off. But the woman was needlessly rude and pushy, I was cooperating with her. I just felt I had the right to do up my pants and belt before turning around and facing the line up of people. Apparently, she didn't agree. It was really embarrassing.

Most of the time, they are pretty decent, but every once in awhile, you get someone that just loves what they do a little too much.