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Old 09-26-2023, 09:23 AM   #1
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Flames Slappin' lipstick on a pig: The 'Dome incorporating new tech

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We're bringing @amazon's Just Walk Out technology to the 'Dome!

Starting on Friday, fans can use our checkout-free store, which is the first installation of Just Walk Out technology in Canada!

More info: https://cflam.es/3M0ndQH
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Old 09-26-2023, 09:23 AM   #2
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That's pretty damn cool, I have to say.
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Old 09-26-2023, 09:50 AM   #3
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That's cool... the video raises questions though. You have to show your card to somebody on exit? Does it only allow one person to shop at a time?

Here's a video explaining it from the Amazon perspective that looks a bit cooler... but I'm unsure that's what the Dome is doing exactly.

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So, I used this in Tampa Bay at a baseball game this summer.

There is an attendant standing there to check ID's. You still have to line up to get in.

You tap your card which activates the sensors. The sensors track your motion throughout the area. When you grab a drink off the shelf, other sensors in the fridge track how much weight you took. If you put anything pack, it tracks that too.

When the motion sensors sense you're out of the area it will charge your card for whatever weight is associated with you and your group.

Frankly, it was creepy and I hated using it. I will not be using this at the 'Dome. Something about normalizing this kind of tracking technology just doesn't sit right with me. I'm sure this post will be laughed at in the future but just giving my honest take on it as someone who used it.
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Anything to speed up the process.

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It's both cool and kinda terrifying.

But I broke the seal on Apple Pay last year, so who knows. If they line is shorter, I'd use it.
However, I don't think the lines will be shorter because it will be a novelty.
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So, I used this in Tampa Bay at a baseball game this summer.

There is an attendant standing there to check ID's. You still have to line up to get in.

You tap your card which activates the sensors. The sensors track your motion throughout the area. When you grab a drink off the shelf, other sensors in the fridge track how much weight you took. If you put anything pack, it tracks that too.

When the motion sensors sense you're out of the area it will charge your card for whatever weight is associated with you and your group.

Frankly, it was creepy and I hated using it. I will not be using this at the 'Dome. Something about normalizing this kind of tracking technology just doesn't sit right with me. I'm sure this post will be laughed at in the future but just giving my honest take on it as someone who used it.
Is there a limit as to how many people can be in the area at a time? I can see a crowded area causing a bit of confusion as to which card holder picked up that can of beer.
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The time you save by the technology will be eaten up by the strugglers at the entrance and exit trying to get their card and ID out while they're holding all of their stuff.
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What if I grab a can at the same time as someone else? And our eyes meet, and they shyly let go of the can, but I say no I insist, you take it, And they do. Who gets charged?
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Is there a limit as to how many people can be in the area at a time? I can see a crowded area causing a bit of confusion as to which card holder picked up that can of beer.
The area in Tampa was huge. To my knowledge there is no limit, however in this small space at the dome they might. The only limit I can recall was 2 drinks per person.

It's one card per group, though. So if you want to pay for your own stuff you'll have to enter individually. Once the card is tapped the trackers sense how many people enter through the gate and all those people are attached to the tapped card.

So if your buddy taps his card and you enter with him, drinks are on your buddy.
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What if I grab a can at the same time as someone else? And our eyes meet, and they shyly let go of the can, but I say no I insist, you take it, And they do. Who gets charged?
At this point, you should just buy them the drink and ask for their number (is that still a thing?).
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I'm guessing it's Just Walk Out's first implementation in Canada because Rogers already has similar tech out here where the Jays play but by a different company.
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I knew there was a purpose for my specifically numbered and weighted standard rock collection.
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I knew there was a purpose for my specifically numbered and weighted standard rock collection.
So if I take a rock and put it on the shelf in place of something lighter will I get money back?
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Now that we have this we can cancel the plans for a new arena, right?
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I thought this was what Just Walk Out was about
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We'll get so used to it that we'll inadvertently shoplift at normal stores.
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So, I used this in Tampa Bay at a baseball game this summer.

There is an attendant standing there to check ID's. You still have to line up to get in.

You tap your card which activates the sensors. The sensors track your motion throughout the area. When you grab a drink off the shelf, other sensors in the fridge track how much weight you took. If you put anything pack, it tracks that too.

When the motion sensors sense you're out of the area it will charge your card for whatever weight is associated with you and your group.

Frankly, it was creepy and I hated using it. I will not be using this at the 'Dome. Something about normalizing this kind of tracking technology just doesn't sit right with me. I'm sure this post will be laughed at in the future but just giving my honest take on it as someone who used it.
How is this any more "tracky" / "intrusive" than paying with credit currently or shopping on-line (which I understand, some find too intrusive).

Maybe I missed something in the video.
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That's cool... the video raises questions though. You have to show your card to somebody on exit? Does it only allow one person to shop at a time?

Here's a video explaining it from the Amazon perspective that looks a bit cooler... but I'm unsure that's what the Dome is doing exactly.

I assumed it was ID to show you are 18 to buy the booze.
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What if I grab a can at the same time as someone else? And our eyes meet, and they shyly let go of the can, but I say no I insist, you take it, And they do. Who gets charged?
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