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Old 12-26-2005, 07:09 PM   #1
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Mike Klander, executive vice-president of the federal Liberal party's Ontario wing, stepped down after photographs of Chow, the NDP candidate for the Toronto riding of Trinity-Spadina, and a chow chow dog were posted on his blog dated Dec. 9 under the heading "Separated at Birth."
The blog also contained an offensive reference to Layton.
"I'm going away for a couple of days so I thought I would find something smart and witty to put up on my blog before I left," the blog said, dated Nov. 23.
"Unfortunatley (sic) I couldn't think of anything so I just want to say that I think Jack Layton is an ******* ... for no reason other than it makes me feel good to say it ... and because he is."
Yikes, perhaps THIS might wake up some Ontarians.

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Old 12-27-2005, 12:10 AM   #2
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interesting that it is the Fiberals making stupid mistakes thus far in the election, whereas it was the Conservatives last time. Randy White has been replaced by Fiberal executives.

Too ****y?
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Old 12-27-2005, 01:06 AM   #3
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Ehh.. I don't think much will come from this.
It'll be glossed over and forgotten by the time the new year comes around.
If this had of been a Conservitive though.....
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Old 12-27-2005, 01:33 AM   #4
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Shut the hell up you stupid fag, gibbled, unimportant, moronic voters! Just vote for us as we have much more important things to do....

- Your Unscary Liberal MP near you.

http://angrygwn.mu.nu/archives/146868.php
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Old 12-27-2005, 10:36 AM   #5
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Shut the hell up you stupid fag, gibbled, unimportant, moronic voters! Just vote for us as we have much more important things to do....

- Your Unscary Liberal MP near you.
Thats the most coherent post you've ever made. Congratulations!
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Old 12-27-2005, 10:48 AM   #6
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Seriously...can you imagine the outcry of the bleeding hearts if a Conservative member had done such a thing?

"See, it just proves the evil Cons have a hidden agenda to denegrate anyone who isn't an evangelical bible thumper!!"
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Old 12-27-2005, 10:56 AM   #7
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Canada: where double standards and hypocricy reigns supreme.
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Old 12-27-2005, 12:20 PM   #8
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absolutely

Randy White killed any last ditch hope the Conservatives had with his comments about homosexuals or abortion - I don't even remember what it was - but I do remember that all that was heard was Liberals trumpeting "Hidden Conservative Agenda" and pointing at the radical conservative fringe in the US.

They're still trying to do it, but this time they are making mistakes.

The tide will turn though. Harper may not be able to keep everyone muzzled for 8 weeks. It will just take 1 social conservative slip up for the Fibs to run around Ontario and maintain his votes
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Old 12-27-2005, 01:22 PM   #9
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Really stupid stuff. Good thing he "stepped down".

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No kidding. When a liberal does something like this, they're pushed out of the party and the party distances themselves. When a Conservative does something like this, they clap and chear and make no attempt to seperate the individual attitudes from the party.
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Old 12-27-2005, 01:34 PM   #10
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Seriously...can you imagine the outcry of the bleeding hearts if a Conservative member had done such a thing?
Seriously, I cannot.

Do you really think there would be a huge outcry if some nobody in the Conservative Party did something stupid on his lame personal blog? It would get the same reaction as this story gets -- not much.

Has anybody out there ever even heard of this guy? I didn't think so.

What I find really confusing about all this though is that the LIBERAL MEDIA ELITES are even reporting this story. It doesn't do much for the LIBERAL MEDIA CAUSE to report a story about one liberal making fun of another liberal. It makes it look like there might be dissension in the ranks. There must be a CONSERVATIVE OPERATIVE in the national media control room. By golly, even the Communist Broadcasting Corporation has a copy of the story up on their website. Has the world gone topsy-turvy?

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Old 12-27-2005, 02:27 PM   #11
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The trick is, this isn't just some guy, he's a senior representitive of the party
Here is his biography:
http://www.mikeklander.com/about.html
"Executive Director of the Liberal Party of Canada (Ontario)"
" As a senior political organizer Mike played a significant role in building Paul Martin’s Leadership organization in Ontario"
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He is also Executive Vice-President of the Liberal Party of Canada (Ontario).
You're right, he's some nobody in the liberals....
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Old 12-27-2005, 02:41 PM   #12
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The trick is, this isn't just some guy, he's a senior representitive of the party
Here is his biography:
http://www.mikeklander.com/about.html
"Executive Director of the Liberal Party of Canada (Ontario)"
" As a senior political organizer Mike played a significant role in building Paul Martin’s Leadership organization in Ontario"
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He is also Executive Vice-President of the Liberal Party of Canada (Ontario).
You're right, he's some nobody in the liberals....
Okay he's a real wheel to the insiders of the Liberal Party of Ontario. Big deal. Again, has anyone ever heard the guy's name before? Read the blog?

The assumption seems to be that if a Conservative Party flunkie said something stupid about Jack Layton then there would be a huge controversy. I just don't agree. I don't buy into the whole "Liberal Media Bias" line. Others obviously do.
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Do you really think there would be a huge outcry if some nobody in the Conservative Party did something stupid on his lame personal blog? It would get the same reaction as this story gets -- not much.
Some nobody? He is (was) in a key position for the Ontario Liberal party. NUMBER TWO!! And a little history... from the Liberals own website (*cached Google.... gotta love that!)
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Mike is a public affairs consultant with an extensive history in the Liberal Party. A former LPC(O) Executive Director and a long-time Party staffer, Mike's involvment in the Party dates back to late 1980s where he was an active member of his local Riding Association and a Young Liberal activist.
This is from his description as linked to his Executive Vice-President position.

Nobody.. right.

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What I find really confusing about all this though is that the LIBERAL MEDIA ELITES are even reporting this story. It doesn't do much for the LIBERAL MEDIA CAUSE to report a story about one liberal making fun of another liberal. It makes it look like there might be dissension in the ranks. There must be a CONSERVATIVE OPERATIVE in the national media control room. By golly, even the Communist Broadcasting Company has a copy of the story up on their website. Has the world gone topsy-turvy?
What I see in the "media" is only a part of the story about this person's blog, and his thoughts.

There was NO mention of his gay reference:
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Did you ever wonder why is that when you put a cowboy hat on an actor they look tough and rugged...and when you put one on a politician they look gay?
How about the sexist and racist remarks from his list of things that will make him "sick" that were not reported in the CBC story:
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Harper being flanked by the sexy Rona Ambrose at every opportunity
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Harper being flanked by the ethnic Rahim Jaffer at every opportunity
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The terms "culture of entitlement", "adscam" or "whistleblower"...blow this!
Nice... just nice.

Those from the Google cache of Klander's site:
http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:...hl=en&ie=UTF-8

And another gay reference reported by neither CBC or CTV... right under the same picture of Harper and Dusceppe from the Holocaust ceremony (and used in the internal Liberal "brochures")..... hmmm... considering this one is from May, wonder how the same picture appears NOW in the internal Fiberal propaganda? No, "Mr Nobody" couldn't be involved? Or could he?

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Yes indeed, politics does make for strange bedfellows...but is there more to it?

I would bet that his wife couldn't make his eyes roll back into his head like that.
http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:...ient=firefox-a

And that same link above gets into a shot at quadriplegic CPC MP Stephen Fletcher, saying about an article on him:

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This is funny so stop pretending that its not...stop being so politically correct will you?
Just lovely. Again, not reported by CBC or CTV.

Article content documenting the discussion between Dosanjh and Fletcher (which is what Klander considers funny) is here:

http://www.stevenfletcher.com/archives/000308.php

There is nothing funny about Fletchers circumstance.

And how about his comments on the "stupid people"?

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People who are involved in politics are inevitably asked the question: "Do you think you will ever run for office?"

I say NO...not because I don't think it's noble profession or because I think the commitment is too great...and NO not even because you have to be nice to really stupid people.
HIS words!!! And part of the bigger story, which once again, did not appear in the CBC or CTV stories.

No, the Liberal media are clearly covering this one as best they can, right? You must agree with that statement, correct?

If it was a CPC Executive Vice President that had this blog, every detail would have been reported... over, and over, and over again.

Apologies for the length of it, but it DOES document how the media has glossed over this... so far. Let's see if they did into it more, or if it gets swept under the rug.
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Old 12-27-2005, 03:32 PM   #14
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No, the Liberal media are clearly covering this one as best they can, right? You must agree with that statement, correct?

If it was a CPC Executive Vice President that had this blog, every detail would have been reported... over, and over, and over again.
I can't agree or disagree with the statement "the Liberal media are clearly covering this one as best they can, right?" because I don't believe in the "Liberal media" the way you do.

I will say that the media is giving this story as much and as little attention as they deem necessary. Right now they are not giving it a lot of attention (as far as I can tell), because it simply is not a big deal. I had to do a search for the story on the Sun's news site. The Calgary Herald made a passing reference to all that gay stuff. I don't think the National Post mentioned it at all. Are the Herald and the Sun and the Post in the clutches of the Liberal Media Overlords?

I'm sorry, but I just don't see the Liberal Media Conspiracy. I asked already -- if there is this massive liberal-dominated media problem in this country, how did this story even get covered in the first place? It's one liberal making fun of another liberal. It makes everyone involved (Liberals) look bad.

If this guy is such a big deal, such a non-nobody, you'd think he'd have enough pull to kill this story completely. Maybe the Liberals will have to tighten their grip on the media? Do you think?
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Old 12-27-2005, 05:52 PM   #15
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ya...you must be right Rouge....

Its no big deal because you and I dont know him from some crackhead on the streets of _________.

Are you REALLY saying to the masses of this board, that the reaction would of been the same if this had come from a "blog" of a Con?

really?
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ya...you must be right Rouge....

Its no big deal because you and I dont know him from some crackhead on the streets of _________.

Are you REALLY saying to the masses of this board, that the reaction would of been the same if this had come from a "blog" of a Con?

really?
Yes. If a no-name dumbass from the CPCs did the same thing, the reaction would be the same -- it would be reported across the country and most people wouldn't care about what a no-name dumbass from the CPCs says on his goofy personal blog.

What do you think would happen?

Are you REALLY saying that in the newsrooms across the country there is a conspiracy to hold back on reporting bad things about the Liberals?
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Are you REALLY saying that in the newsrooms across the country there is a conspiracy to hold back on reporting bad things about the Liberals?
Nope...when a Lib does something stupid/inappropriate, of course they have no choic but to report it.

What I AM saying and have all along, is that if it was a Harper right hand man...there would be outrage and NO END to teh coverage...not some google search to find the story.
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Maybe it is just where you are Tranny. The "Liberal biased" media is playing it heavy here. Front page Ottawa Sun, Lead Editorial and news section of Toronto Sun, 2nd page of London Free Press. Given the gun violence that could have pushed it to the back, it is getting ink, andisn't a google search
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Nope...when a Lib does something stupid/inappropriate, of course they have no choic but to report it.

What I AM saying and have all along, is that if it was a Harper right hand man...there would be outrage and NO END to teh coverage...not some google search to find the story.
You had to do a google search to find the story? That's odd. I'm sure I saw it on the front page of the Globe, Calgary Herald and National Post websites. Maybe on the front of the CBC page as well. Did you check those sites before you did your search?

I agree that if it was Harper's "right hand man" this would have gotten a lot more attention, but what does that have to do with anything? Do you think this guy is the PM's "right hand man"? I don't. Because he's not. He's a provincial Liberal party hack, and a real dumb one to boot. It's not exactly Karl Rove we are talking about here.
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No kidding. When a liberal does something like this, they're pushed out of the party and the party distances themselves. When a Conservative does something like this, they clap and chear and make no attempt to seperate the individual attitudes from the party.
You mean like Heidi Fry, Elenor Caplan and Carolyn Parrish?

Oh wait, Parrish was turfed for badmouthing the boss, not for her anti-Americanism. The Liberals clapped and cheered for that. They also clapped and cheered for the libelous accusations of racism by the other two twits.

Nice try though Winsor. A for effort.
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