08-21-2023, 05:50 PM
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NHL Training Camp PTOs
Our old friend Alex Chiasson gets a try-out with the Bruins.
https://www.eliteprospects.com/playe.../alex-chiasson
Last edited by Reggie Dunlop; 08-21-2023 at 06:09 PM.
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08-21-2023, 06:39 PM
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All I can get
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Nathan Beaulieu: Hurricanes
Brandon Sutter: No Goods
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08-21-2023, 06:44 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: victoria
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I hope the flames have zero PTO's
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08-21-2023, 06:56 PM
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Moneyhands23
I hope the flames have zero PTO's
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Literally zero downside to having a couple guys around who can help fill the vet quota required in pre-season games.
What is the issue?
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08-21-2023, 07:02 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
Literally zero downside to having a couple guys around who can help fill the vet quota required in pre-season games.
What is the issue?
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Probably that we end up giving roster spots to the PTOs who show up for a handful of games.
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08-21-2023, 07:08 PM
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Franchise Player
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three pre-season games in two days (incl the split squad games) necessitates ~24-27 NHL veterans since you will not want to play your main roster guys in back-to-back nights early into training camp
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08-21-2023, 07:18 PM
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ThaBrink
Probably that we end up giving roster spots to the PTOs who show up for a handful of games.
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How many PTO's have received NHL contracts from the Flames....ever?
3?
PTO guys are almost a requirement for most teams every year.
IF they happen to outplay other guys for the position....then what are you losing?
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08-21-2023, 07:19 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary
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The veteran requirement is usually waived for the split squad games.
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08-21-2023, 07:31 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Flames fan in Seattle
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
How many PTO's have received NHL contracts from the Flames....ever?
3?
PTO guys are almost a requirement for most teams every year.
IF they happen to outplay other guys for the position....then what are you losing?
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Youth and developing our future players.
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08-21-2023, 07:38 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Section 203
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
How many PTO's have received NHL contracts from the Flames....ever?
3?
PTO guys are almost a requirement for most teams every year.
IF they happen to outplay other guys for the position....then what are you losing?
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These are the ones I know of. There may be more.
2014 - Raphael Diaz
2016 - Nick Grossmann, who was just awful
2016 - Kris Versteeg, was on a PTO with Edmonton, but signed with Calgary
2017 - Tanner Glass
2019 - Tobias Rieder
2019 - Zac Rinaldo
2020 - Michael Stone
2021 - Michael Stone
2021 - Brett Ritchie
2022 - Michael Stone
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08-21-2023, 07:41 PM
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Franchise Player
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I liked Zac Rinaldo as a Flame. Glue guy.
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08-21-2023, 07:50 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
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Diaz and Versteeg were very good for PTOs
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08-21-2023, 08:02 PM
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Tanner Glass was awesome in the pre season. Exactly what that Flames team needed. I was happy they signed him. Then he fell off the cliff. Immediately.
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08-21-2023, 09:50 PM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMike
Diaz and Versteeg were very good for PTOs
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so was Stone, who shouldn't really count
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08-21-2023, 10:02 PM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
Literally zero downside to having a couple guys around who can help fill the vet quota required in pre-season games.
What is the issue?
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Months of arguing whether the choice for 13th forward would make or break the Flames' season.
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08-21-2023, 10:29 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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If a PTO comes to camp and steals a spot from one of your young players, then those young players are obviously not ready for prime time.
I want Max Comtois and Noah Gregor.
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08-21-2023, 10:31 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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Any vets would be wise to PTO here. It's going to be wide open, you can't say it's that way on a lot of other teams. Conroy and Huska are pretty fair guys and your competition is inexperienced. If I'm a guy looking to extend my career I'd be looking at Calgary.
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08-21-2023, 10:55 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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It's rumoured that the Pens, Leafs, and Wings may offer Tatar a PTO.
https://bvmsports.com/2023/08/19/pen...show-interest/
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08-22-2023, 05:46 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandman
If a PTO comes to camp and steals a spot from one of your young players, then those young players are obviously not ready for prime time.
I want Max Comtois and Noah Gregor.
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I used to think like that, but I've changed my perspective. Those vets know exactly what to do to impress enough in a camp because they've been there before many times, and they may be able to do it for a short period of time against other team's mix of vets and prospects, but it's not sustainable. Meanwhile, a prospect is unfamiliar with what's required to truly impress in camp, and may still be learning the pro game and look like they're not ready.
However. If you go to game 10 of the season, the prospect, if he's worth anything, has ramped up his game and has either caught up to the replacement level vet or has surpassed them, but because you filled that roster spot, you're more likely than not to see the vet play a bunch of games at a terrible level than ever see what the prospect could contribute.
I don't believe that Comtois or Gregor are better than any of the young guys we have on the verge of breaking in. If the prospects can't hack it, there are no shortage of veterans out there still waiting for a contract that you could sign mid season. The smarter thing to do now that there are a surplus of borderline NHLers is to wait until about game 20 to see what you have in the system. If the kid needs more seasoning, go out and sign a Brett Ritchie type if you have to, but don't do that unless it's a last resort.
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08-22-2023, 05:57 AM
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Franchise Player
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You can still have them there as an incentive to be in shape for camp and show well there. Even if you have no intention of signing a guy he can still be useful.
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