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			10-20-2020, 09:24 AM
			
			
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				Calgarypuck Prospect Ranking 2020 - Round 2
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			It's time for the 8th annual Calgarypuck Prospect Ranking, but at a different time of year and certainly at a different time. 
First a look back at previous years can be done with this handy link:  Previous Results
Once again vote how you want. There are those that vote 100% on potential, some that vote 100% on the likelihood to see an NHL rink, others that apply a mix, some using the value in a trade. Completely up to you.
 
I'll run one a day until we are done, and then FlamesAddiction wants to do a one off list version to compare the results.
 
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 2020 Results
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			10-20-2020, 09:28 AM
			
			
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			Going with Zary.  
 
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			10-20-2020, 09:30 AM
			
			
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			Matty Phillips.   I can see him having a Cam Atkinson type career when he finally gets his big break.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			10-20-2020, 09:30 AM
			
			
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			Zary for me... 
He is a centre, and based on feedback from pro-scouts we should be excited. 
His stats compare highly with other high-end picks from recent years. 
 
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			10-20-2020, 09:30 AM
			
			
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			Jakob Pelletier stagnated in terms of production. Zary hasn't.  
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			10-20-2020, 09:34 AM
			
			
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			Zary would have probably been a late 1st/early 2nd in 2019 if he was born a couple of weeks prior.  
 
He really killed it in the WHL this year, and should’ve easily been a top 15 pick.  
 
Voting him as I view him as a solid NHLer one day.  
 
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			10-20-2020, 09:43 AM
			
			
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			It was between Zary and Pelletier for me. Ended up voting for Pelletier.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-20-2020, 09:53 AM
			
			
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			A centerman who has all the tools, including goal scoring. What's not to like?  
 
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			10-20-2020, 09:55 AM
			
			
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			My pick is Zary, although I won't be able to make it until I can get back on my computer. 
 
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			10-20-2020, 09:57 AM
			
			
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			I went with Zary over Pelletier, mostly because he plays C instead of the wing
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-20-2020, 09:59 AM
			
			
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			Surprised by the lack of love for Pelletier. Still early I guess.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-20-2020, 10:15 AM
			
			
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			Pelletier.  Not that he's a great prospect, but we know where he is and its further along the development path.  Still shows equal upside.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-20-2020, 10:16 AM
			
			
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				Surprised by the lack of love for Pelletier. Still early I guess. 
			
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			10-20-2020, 10:17 AM
			
			
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			I view Zary and Pelletier as pretty equal.  Zary is a C, so him first
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-20-2020, 10:20 AM
			
			
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				Jakob Pelletier stagnated in terms of production. Zary hasn't.  
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How did Pelletier stagnate? Went from 1.36 to 1.44 pts/gm in draft +1.
 
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			10-20-2020, 10:23 AM
			
			
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				Recency bias.  Happens every year. 
			
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Disagree with this Zary vs. Pelletier -thing. Zary improved more than Pelletier last season point-wise, although Pelletier also continued to progress. And because Zary is a center, it's pretty easy to vote for him over Pelletier, who clearly is #3.
 
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			10-20-2020, 10:24 AM
			
			
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			Meanwhile, Zary went from 1.06 to 1.51 
 
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			10-20-2020, 10:25 AM
			
			
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			Wondering when to vote for Mackey.  He is 24, on a one year contract and so I expect will get a long look at camp.  Really wonder what will happen for many players if AHL isn’t economically feasible this year. 
 
This round, total tossup between the last two first round picks.  Guess I’ll go with Zary as he came from a deeper draft and neither player yet to play outside of junior.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-20-2020, 10:25 AM
			
			
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				Disagree with this Zary vs. Pelletier -thing. Zary improved more than Pelletier last season point-wise, although Pelletier also continued to play well. And because Zary is a center, it's pretty easy to vote for him over Pelletier, who clearly is #3. 
			
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Zary improved more point wise because he went from draft -1 to draft year. Pelletier went up by almost the same amount from draft -1 to draft year. you have to analyze the draft season to draft season.
 
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			10-20-2020, 10:27 AM
			
			
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				Wondering when to vote for Mackey.  He is 24, on a one year contract and so I expect will get a long look at camp.  Really wonder what will happen for many players if AHL isn’t economically feasible this year. 
 
This round, total tossup between the last two first round picks.  Guess I’ll go with Zary as he came from a deeper draft and neither player yet to play outside of junior. 
			
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