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01-22-2017, 06:06 PM
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I believe in the Pony Power
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A shake-up at this point probably does more damage than good.
If you trade Gio, have you considered what the D looks like? Basically only two top 4 dmen, including one (Brodie) who hasn't played like one this season at all.
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01-22-2017, 06:08 PM
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Yeah there is not enough depth either at the NHL level or in the organization to really believe we can trade our way out of this. We really need to develop a couple of key pieces.
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01-22-2017, 06:12 PM
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Gio has been brutal this year. With his contract, what makes you think any team would want him, let alone over pay for him with their top line player?
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01-22-2017, 06:12 PM
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#5
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Lifetime In Suspension
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Once again this team making the playoffs and raising fan expectations has lead to hysteria regarding the state of the team and the rebuild. The needs are still pretty much the same: top line winger, top 4 defenceman, starting goaltender.
Any trades or moves have to be made with trying to address those positions. Other than that let it play out with a coach who is trying to teach a system that's more than just stretch passes and no possession.
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01-22-2017, 06:13 PM
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what to do? Be patient. 5 key players are 23 and under. Three more are 26, 27 and 28
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01-22-2017, 06:14 PM
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#7
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No knee jerk reactions. Just start to move out UFA's that won't be back, and stick to the plan
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01-22-2017, 06:16 PM
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CalgaryPuck Drinking Game:
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- Complains about the system sucking
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01-22-2017, 06:16 PM
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Very tough to make big trades in season in Bettman's new cap era NHL. Only thing I could see happening is a vet getting punted to the AHL to send the rest a message and not let them get complacent. Even that, they seem reluctant to do. Chiasson has been terrible all season and he's still not only here but in a top 9 forward role.
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01-22-2017, 06:19 PM
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#10
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I believe in the Pony Power
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matty81
Very tough to make big trades in season in Bettman's new cap era NHL. Only thing I could see happening is a vet getting punted to the AHL to send the rest a message and not let them get complacent. Even that, they seem reluctant to do. Chiasson has been terrible all season and he's still not only here but in a top 9 forward role.
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I don't think Chiasson has been terrible at all.
He is mis-cast but has delivered for his contract and the type of player he is.
Not sure why he is such a focal point.
Teams win and lose with their best players, so in terms of who should be held accountable it is plainly obvious
- Johnny
- Monny
- Brodie
- Gio
- Goaltending (both of late, Elliott for the entire season)
- Bennett
There's your group right there that hasn't done the job.
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01-22-2017, 06:27 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JiriHrdina
I don't think Chiasson has been terrible at all.
He is mis-cast but has delivered for his contract and the type of player he is.
Not sure why he is such a focal point.
Teams win and lose with their best players, so in terms of who should be held accountable it is plainly obvious
- Johnny
- Monny
- Brodie
- Gio
- Goaltending (both of late, Elliott for the entire season)
- Bennett
There's your group right there that hasn't done the job.
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So let them sink or swim together. Put the five of them out there as a unit.
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01-22-2017, 06:31 PM
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#12
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Patience is key. I don't think you move any young players right now but if there's some solid offers for Gio I think you have to look at it but a defenseman needs to come back the other way.
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01-22-2017, 06:38 PM
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I believe in the Jays.
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I'm not happy with recent results, but overall we are right about where I expected us to be: battling for a wild card spot.
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01-22-2017, 06:38 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Trade off two vets (Ferland/Bouma/Brouwer/Wideman are candidates, haven't brought a lot to the team for a good amount of time now). Bring up Rasmus Andersson (was +18, by far tops on the Heat last I checked) and Jankowski and start breeding them in sheltered roles at the NHL level. At least for a 10-20 game stint. Give them a taste.
This rebuild needs to take a step and it's about time someone from within the system starts filling those 5-6 D positions, growing pains be damned.
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01-22-2017, 06:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pgsieve
Gio has been brutal this year. With his contract, what makes you think any team would want him, let alone over pay for him with their top line player?
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yeah he's been so brutal, 22 points, +7, 52% xGF% at 5v5 all while being the defensive half of his pairing. trade the bum.
maaaaybe his leadership isn't there, but fixing that would just mean giving the C to Backlund or Tkachuk instead, not trading him for another scorer who'll get murdered by this ineffective system
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01-22-2017, 06:50 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Flames fan in Seattle
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Call Ups is my solution to shake up.. We need fresh energy..
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01-22-2017, 06:54 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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The Flames are on the verge of being contenders but a few things have held them back this season.
- Gaudreau missed camp and then got hurt
- Gaudreau has to deal with the pressure of a new contract
- Gaudreau is being dragged down by Chaisson
- Gaudreau is being slashed too much
- Monahan got hurt and then missed camp
- Monahan has to deal with the pressure of a new contract
- Elliot had a baby
- Brodie has a fiance with MS
- Brodie is playing on the wrong side
- Brodie is being dragged down by Wideman
- Wideman
- the team can't get a fair shake from the refs because of Wideman
- the team had to learn a new system
- the team only plays well rested opponents, unlike the Oilers who only play tired teams
And the nice thing is, as long as they keep sucking we can keep coming up with excuses.
Either that or just accept that they aren't good enough and aren't getting better.
The Flames look to be just a couple of years away from contending. (Just like they were two years ago.)
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01-22-2017, 06:59 PM
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Franchise Player
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^ i think you forgot that Hamilton had to adjust to his 3rd system in 3 years. I have heard each of the other ones several times.
The best players need to be held accountable. So let's hold them accountable.
Then what?
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01-22-2017, 07:01 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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The last thing the flames need is a shake up.
They need a steady hand to see this season through without franchise altering decisions.
This isn't a playoff team, stay the course, continue with the process, move assets for a good return at the deadline, continue team building.
Firing the coach right now would be idiotic, this team was going nowhere that mattered at the start of the season no matter who was at the helm.
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