New TV

[bagofpucks]

Hey Folks,
I know there have been a few recent threads on here with TV buying advice, but I figure the technology changes so quick it may be worthwhile to start a new one! So, came home today and our TV has officially kicked the bucket. It's 10 years old, so it's had a good life. Here's what I'm looking for:

- 55-65 inches
- Budget between $1000-$1500
- I don't think I need 4K, so not willing to pay a huge premium for it
- We have a Costco card, but open to suggestions for where to buy
- Open to any other must have or nice to have suggestions!

Thanks to everyone in advance!

[PsYcNeT]

Last years non-HDR 60" 4K models are down to around 1600-1700 bucks now, so I would assume you could get a top end 60-65" 1080p TV for ~1300.

Yep. The Samsung Tizens are cheap now:

http://www.thesource.ca/en-ca/tvs-an...tv/p/108034951

[Diemenz]

1. Go to Costco
2. Buy a Vizio
3. Get Extended Warranty
4. Win

If you want a 65
http://www.costco.ca/Vizio--D65u-D2-...100278519.html

If you want a cheaper 65 without 4k
http://www.costco.ca/Vizio--D65-D2-6...100293184.html

Vizio has great panels, I own 2 and would say their only downside is the upscaling is not up with the big boys. So in other words if you watch some SD TV or some old school DVD's you won't get top notch upscaling but if you have moved on from them then you can't go wrong with the price you pay for a Vizio.

It is also nice getting a 120 panel with 240 clear rate versus the Tizen which is a 60 panel with a 120 rate....Soap Opera max power on the Samsung panel. The Vizio has zero noticeable motion blur with clear rate on while the Samsung will.

[underGRADFlame]

If you go Vizio I would suggest the M Series good price at Costco for the 4K

[TheScorpion]

I highly recommend Sony TVs, they have exceptional picture quality and a lot of outputs. I have two.

Here's one at Best Buy. 55", 4K, Android Smart TV. It's right in your wheelhouse, $1299.

I've never been a huge fan of Vizio, but that's up to interpretation. My two Sony TVs have always offered great picture quality. They're a great brand.

http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/...ab2bdcfa06en02

They have them at the 17th Ave. location.

4 HDMI
2 A/V
3 USB
Wi-Fi
Bluetooth

[PsYcNeT]

Just a note, don't bother with 4k if it isnt:

- HDR compliant
- HDMI 2.0 compliant
- 60+Hz cycling (pref 120 or 240, not with motion tweening)
- HDCP 2.2 compliant

Effectively, there was a new standard created earlier this year called "UHD Premium" that ensure all of the above are met on the TV. Without these, 4K is pretty useless.

[bagofpucks]

Awesome, thanks for the replies!

I just can't get away from the value of the Vizios at Costco.

Psycnet - I'm having some trouble figuring out if they meet the criteria you laid out. Is there an easy place to find that info on the spec sheet? Or maybe I'm just blind?

[Canehdianman]

love my Vizio TV.

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by bagofpucks

Awesome, thanks for the replies!

I just can't get away from the value of the Vizios at Costco.

Psycnet - I'm having some trouble figuring out if they meet the criteria you laid out. Is there an easy place to find that info on the spec sheet? Or maybe I'm just blind?

Sometimes you need to check the manufacturers website for more detailed specs.

Also, there are a handful of 2015 model UHD TVs that meet the spec, but won't get retroactively certified. Effectively, the TV should say "HDR" or "High-Dynamic Range" somewhere in it's description, and it will say it's cycling/refresh rate. Note that some TVs list their "motion enhancement" rate as their refresh (LG I'm looking at you), but the true rate is usually half that. HDMI 2.0 TVs are more future proof but often times it's not listed on the manufacturer specs. If it's labelled as HDR, it will be HDMI 2.0/a/b ready.

You can buy 4K without these things, but they really aren't much better than 1080p TVs, and can even be worse since more money is put into the panel resolution and less into the picture itself, and it's missing the new processing/bandwidth enhancements that make a huge difference like HDR.

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Just a note, don't bother with 4k if it isnt:

- HDMI 2.0 compliant
- HDCP 2.2 compliant

Good point today, but this will not be an issue in the next model year for TVs. They will be one and the same.

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

Good point today, but this will not be an issue in the next model year for TVs. They will be one and the same.

Yeah for 55" and above we're already seeing that with the 2016 models in the $2000+ price point.

It's been a real slow slog over the last 4-5 years waiting for a 4K standard to be hashed out; it's nice to see it's finally here.

[SuperMatt18]

Also love my Vizio TV - have a 65"1080p from last year and love it.

One thing to make sure is that you do a good check out of the box before taking it home - the one thing a Best Buy employee flagged with them is that their panels do tend to get damaged a little more in transport compared to some of the other brands.

[Diemenz]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Also love my Vizio TV - have a 65"1080p from last year and love it.

One thing to make sure is that you do a good check out of the box before taking it home - the one thing a Best Buy employee flagged with them is that their panels do tend to get damaged a little more in transport compared to some of the other brands.

Buy from Costco and have zero fears.

[psicodude]

+1 for Vizio from Costco. One of the few electronics purchases I have made that I didn't somewhat regret after. I went with the 70" 4K and it has made me infinitely cooler.

[PsYcNeT]

If you do go Visio and 4K, stick to their P-series panels, as they are the only ones that meet the HDR10 and Dolby Vision standards.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

If you do go Visio and 4K, stick to their P-series panels, as they are the only ones that meet the HDR10 and Dolby Vision standards.

I've had a fair bit of trouble finding the P-series for sale anywhere.

Costco.ca seems to have a listing, but they're back-ordered.

[PsYcNeT]

Probablu because the Vizio P-series is the best bang for buck with all the modern trappings.

Their visual quality is astounding for a sub-$3k TV. Probably the worst for HDR, behind LG, Samsung and Sony, but color reproduction and black levels are amazing on the Ps.

[Diemenz]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

If you do go Visio and 4K, stick to their P-series panels, as they are the only ones that meet the HDR10 and Dolby Vision standards.

P Series is out of his price range

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by Diemenz

P Series is out of his price range

The 50" P is $1500.

http://www.costco.ca/Vizio-P50-C1-50...100300296.html

[CaramonLS]

Occasionally the Memory Express clearance centre has some great deals on refurbished plasma TVs. I bought a 60 inch Samsung for $899 last year.

Plasma is still ahead of LCD in terms of picture quality.