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nfotiu · 09-02-2005, 11:09 PM

He said something like
Bush finally brings in the army and tells them to shoot us. Then he finishes with, Bush doesn't care about black people! Mike Myers was standing beside him the whole time, the look on his face was priceless.

Patek23 · 09-02-2005, 11:10 PM

probably because he was some what right.

JiriHrdina · 09-02-2005, 11:11 PM

Yeah I was watching it and in fairness to the guy he seemed nervous and just very distressed. But yeah his comments near the end were...well...odd. One of those "did I just hear that correctly" moments.

300spartans · 09-02-2005, 11:21 PM

http://x700.putfile.com/videos/24420044548.wmv

And then
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MassFlames · 09-02-2005, 11:26 PM

that clip will NEVER stop being funny

Displaced Flames fan · 09-02-2005, 11:29 PM

I watched one of his videos the other day for the first time and was extremely impressed....and moved. And I despise hip hop.

So much for the good impression, after all....only black people were being ignored in the early aftermath. Whitey got out just fine didn't he.

Resolute 14 · 09-02-2005, 11:30 PM

The American attitude towards race is often fascinating - including and especially the attitudes of black people themselves.

Until people started playing the race card, I honestly had no idea that all of the video CNN, CBC, FOX and everyone else was showing was of predominantley black people who were suffering.

All I saw were people suffering.

I didn't even notice their colour.

Displaced Flames fan · 09-02-2005, 11:32 PM

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Originally posted by Snakeeye@Sep 3 2005, 05:30 AM
The American attitude towards race is often fascinating - including and especially the attitudes of black people themselves.

Until people started playing the race card, I honestly had no idea that all of the video CNN, CBC, FOX and everyone else was showing was of predominantley black people who were suffering.

All I saw were people suffering.

I didn't even notice their colour.

Exactly. And NOBODY should notice the color.

Claeren · 09-02-2005, 11:44 PM

OMG!!!!!

That is SO funny!

It is one thing to hear about what he said but it is a whole other and much funnier thing to actually watch it!!

Poor Mike Myers...

Claeren.

Devils'Advocate · 09-02-2005, 11:46 PM

Obviously that was a, uh, heat of the moment thing.... cause he didn't practice that once.

But I'd pay $100 to hear what Mike Myers was about to say before they cut away.

Calgary Flames · 09-02-2005, 11:46 PM

Career over... Kanye your hype machine is over. You are an idiot. It's unfortunate that N.O. has so much poverty among african americans but give it a rest...

Unbelievable... Just ignorant comments. I'd accept "Goerge Bush doesn't care about people in poverty, but "George Bush doesn't care about Black people??" That's just some ignorant shinguard right there. Bush will do everything he can, why wouldn't he?

Even Chris Tucker had a WTF look on his face.

nfotiu · 09-02-2005, 11:49 PM

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Originally posted by Displaced Flames fan+Sep 3 2005, 01:32 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Displaced Flames fan @ Sep 3 2005, 01:32 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Snakeeye@Sep 3 2005, 05:30 AM
The American attitude towards race is often fascinating - including and especially the attitudes of black people themselves.

Until people started playing the race card, I honestly had no idea that all of the video CNN, CBC, FOX and everyone else was showing was of predominantley black people who were suffering.

All I saw were people suffering.

I didn't even notice their colour.

Exactly. And NOBODY should notice the color. [/b][/quote]
I don't know about where you live DFF, but here in the South, race is very much a part of who you are. In my city, the communities are seperate, the schools are seperate, the type of jobs they take are seperate, the accents are very different, the social events in the city are completely segregated, you name it. There are 2 very different cultures living completely seperately. It is something people who don't live here can't understand really. And really no one on either side is putting much of an effort to change it.

The people are treated differently by all levels of authority. I have no doubt that in a disaster here, the police would think of the blacks as looters, and the whites as taking what they needed. I have no doubt that a crisis in a middle class white neighbourhood would be treated much differently than one in a poor black neighbourhood. There are some black people who put a good deal of efforts to disassociate themselves from the stigma their skin colour bears around here. The level of segregration in the south would shock many from the north, and it is completely fair to be suspicious if they are being treated differently because the are poor black people from the south. It's not just skin colour, it's their community that gets treated poorly.

Devils'Advocate · 09-02-2005, 11:51 PM

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Originally posted by Calgary Flames@Sep 2 2005, 10:46 PM
Career over... Kanye your hype machine is over. You are an idiot. It's unfortunate that N.O. has so much poverty among african americans but give it a rest...

Unbelievable... Just ignorant comments. I'd accept "Goerge Bush doesn't care about people in poverty, buy "George Bush doesn't care about Black people??" That's just some ignorant shinguard right there.

Even Chris Tucker had a WTF look on his face.

No way. He's going to be on the front page of some newspapers today. Hell, I had never heard of him until tonight... so I decided to check out if he was talented or not. I love "Diamonds from Sierra Leone".

Mango · 09-02-2005, 11:53 PM

http://entertainment.tv.yahoo.com/entnews/...2572168000.html

Certainly a shocking moment - caught me off guard, and I was doing something else in the room at the time I was watching. I had the East coast feed on the digital.

Resolute 14 · 09-02-2005, 11:53 PM

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Originally posted by Devils'Advocate+Sep 2 2005, 10:51 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Devils'Advocate @ Sep 2 2005, 10:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Calgary Flames@Sep 2 2005, 10:46 PM
Career over... Kanye your hype machine is over. You are an idiot. It's unfortunate that N.O. has so much poverty among african americans but give it a rest...

Unbelievable... Just ignorant comments. I'd accept "Goerge Bush doesn't care about people in poverty, buy "George Bush doesn't care about Black people??" That's just some ignorant shinguard right there.

Even Chris Tucker had a WTF look on his face.

No way. He's going to be on the front page of some newspapers today. Hell, I had never heard of him until tonight... so I decided to check out if he was talented or not. I love "Diamonds from Sierra Leone". [/b][/quote]
Agreed. I never heard of him either until tonight.

He just made his carreer.

Patek23 · 09-02-2005, 11:54 PM

He speaks from his heart, he is correct. Seriously I don't mean to stereotype myself but what are the chances of a high-class texan having a prejudice towards colored people, I'd say they are pretty good.

Claeren · 09-02-2005, 11:58 PM

I kind of am impressed with the guy. He went overboard but more people with a voice need to use it. Poverty is a huge problem that is NOT being addressed year after year in the US. Just this week a report came out showing that US poverty numbers continue to grow and that 1/8 live below the already too low poverty line. Of those i am sure 2/3's are non-white.

Reading the script is boring (Does anyone remember what Mike Myers said?), i want to see passion and commitment to helping people and at its root that is what Kanye was trying to do...

Claeren.

Claeren · 09-03-2005, 12:01 AM

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Originally posted by Flaming Homer@Sep 2 2005, 10:54 PM
He speaks from his heart, he is correct. Seriously I don't mean to stereotype myself but what are the chances of a high-class texan having a prejudice towards colored people, I'd say they are pretty good.

Bush is not from Texas.

He just pretends to be for popularity purposes. It is virtually impossible to win the White House running out of the NE USA.

He is as upper-class, prep boy, north-easterner as.... John Kerry!!

Birth place - Bush Sr - Milton, Massachusetts
Birth place - Bush Jr - New Haven, Connecticut

University - Bush Sr - Phillips Academy of Andover (Massachusetts) / Yale
University - Bush Jr - Yale / Harvard

Claeren.

Resolute 14 · 09-03-2005, 12:01 AM

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Originally posted by Flaming Homer@Sep 2 2005, 10:54 PM
He speaks from his heart, he is correct. Seriously I don't mean to stereotype myself but what are the chances of a high-class texan having a prejudice towards colored people, I'd say they are pretty good.

I think nfoitu hit on a key point: no one on either side is all that willing to change things in that area.

While I would agree that West is speaking from the heart, I wonder what he has done to help change things?

MassFlames · 09-03-2005, 12:06 AM

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Originally posted by Displaced Flames fan@Sep 3 2005, 12:32 AM
Exactly. And NOBODY should notice the color.

this would be fine in a utopian society, but it's simply not practical in America today for a number of reasons, caused both by white people and by minorities.