Man cites 'gender identity' rule after stripping in women's washroom

[taco.vidal]

Here we go. In Seattle this time.

http://www.therebel.media/naked_man_..._swim_practice

The article is from the Rebel, and although the editorial commentary could be done without, the facts of the story still stand.

February 17, 2016
Man cites 'gender identity' rule after stripping in women's washroom, returns as young girls change for swim practice

On February 8 at Evans Pool, a man wearing board shorts entered the women's locker room and began to strip. When females alerted staff they asked the man to leave.

“The law has changed and I have a right to be here,” the man told them, citing the transgender rule.

No one was arrested and police weren't called, according to King5.

Even more disturbing, the man returned a second time while young girls were changing for their swim practice.

[PepsiFree]

News: People take advantage of laws

[Canuck-Hater]

Facts? The rebel? That site reminds me of infowars.

[Patek23]

I think this is a case of things becoming way too PC. If you got a penis than you change in the appropriate change room. You can identify as whatever you please on the inside but if your still in a mans body than the mens change room is still for you.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by Flaming Homer

I think this is a case of things becoming way too PC. If you got a penis than you change in the appropriate change room. You can identify as whatever you please on the inside but if your still in a mans body than the mens change room is still for you.

/this
/world view
/common sense
/thread

[OMG!WTF!]

So was the guy transgendered and living as a woman, or not? Seems like there's a pretty easy solution to this baffling dilemma.

[CampbellsTransgressions]

Changing rooms shouldn't be the obstacle in the way of a shift towards gender neutrality.

I'm sure we can figure out a compromise for this one specific problem. Maybe we just need to allow society to come to the rational conclusion that men stripping in front of women shouldn't actually be a big deal. Or perhaps the solution is something else, I don't know.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by CampbellsTransgressions

Changing rooms shouldn't be the obstacle in the way of a shift towards gender neutrality.

I'm sure we can figure out a compromise for this one specific problem. Maybe we just need to allow society to come to the rational conclusion that men stripping in front of women shouldn't actually be a big deal. Or perhaps the solution is something else, I don't know.

[CampbellsTransgressions]

Originally Posted by T@T

Judging by the reactions in this thread, you would almost think that nudity has never been accepted in any society or that gender-neutral changing rooms don't exist. You would also think that the rules of our society can't possibly change...

NSFW
NSFW
NSFW

Isn't it fascinating that I have to tag these links as NSFW, even though the pictures have nothing to do with sex or any detestable activity? God forbid a boob or penis come up on the monitor at work, as nobody has ever seen both, especially not in the 14A movies they watch when they get home from work.

I believe the change will happen, but it will take a long time.

But if you have an actual argument against my opinion, please feel free to elaborate. I maintain an open mind. For example, a month ago I was on the other side, but then I listened to people and educated myself a bit more, and took some time to think about the issue.

[Locke]

Florida?

No?

I'm actually surprised.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by Locke

Florida?

No?

I'm actually surprised.

I suspect getting arrested is the least of your worries if your caught with your Johnson out in a girls locker in Florida

[MrMastodonFarm]

Comment section is amazing.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by CampbellsTransgressions

Judging by the reactions in this thread, you would almost think that nudity has never been accepted in any society or that gender-neutral changing rooms don't exist. You would also think that the rules of our society can't possibly change...

NSFW
NSFW
NSFW

Isn't it fascinating that I have to tag these links as NSFW, even though the pictures have nothing to do with sex or any detestable activity? God forbid a boob or penis come up on the monitor at work, as nobody has ever seen both, especially not in the 14A movies they watch when they get home from work.

I believe the change will happen, but it will take a long time.

But if you have an actual argument against my opinion, please feel free to elaborate. I maintain an open mind. For example, a month ago I was on the other side, but then I listened to people and educated myself a bit more, and took some time to think about the issue.

I suspect you'll be long gone dead of old age before you will see it being ok for a male to be allowed in a change room full of young girls. And I don't care if the male wears girls makeup or not.

[CampbellsTransgressions]

Originally Posted by T@T

I suspect you'll be long gone dead of old age before you will see it being ok for a male to be allowed in a change room full of young girls. And I don't care if the male wears girls makeup or not.

That's fine, at first we can segregate based on age. The point is that there are solutions to this problem and they certainly don't deserve to be immediately dismissed, especially not because they're deemed progressive or (incorrectly) PC as is often the case.

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

I suspect getting arrested is the least of your worries if your caught with your Johnson out in a girls locker in Florida

Just wait until women start throwing live alligators into the changeneral room. Militarized Sexual Eradicating Alligators.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by CampbellsTransgressions

That's fine, at first we can segregate based on age. The point is that there are solutions to this problem and they certainly don't deserve to be immediately dismissed, especially not because they're deemed progressive or (incorrectly) PC as is often the case.

Great, instead of dirty old men in a young girls change room we'll just allow horny young boys. Seriously man, people just don't want the opposite sex in their bathrooms/change-rooms...period.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by T@T

I suspect you'll be long gone dead of old age before you will see it being ok for a male to be allowed in a change room full of young girls. And I don't care if the male wears girls makeup or not.

Unless this is like the ending of the Sixth Sense, I might argue with you on him being long dead.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...ines-1.3402300

Originally Posted by Alberta students to define their own gender: 5 big changes in new school guidelines

3. Use male or female washrooms, or neither
It should be up to each individual whether they use a washroom designated for males or females, according to the guidelines.

Specifically, the document states that students should be "able to access washrooms that are congruent with their gender identity."
...

4. Pick the change room you prefer

When it comes to change rooms, all students are to have access to "facilities that meet their individual needs and privacy concerns."

[CampbellsTransgressions]

Originally Posted by T@T

Great, instead of dirty old men in a young girls change room we'll just allow horny young boys. Seriously man, people just don't want the opposite sex in their bathrooms/change-rooms...period.

You stated yourself that it would take a long time, as did I.

I'm not arguing that people living right now want to see it, but that it's going to happen over time, especially with the continued development of behavioural science and the progressively more and more open society with regard to sexuality and gender.

But hey, I would also suggest that as society shifts, those that are concerned can use individual stalls, much like they can today.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by taco.vidal

Here we go. In Seattle this time.

http://www.therebel.media/naked_man_..._swim_practice

The article is from the Rebel, and although the editorial commentary could be done without, the facts of the story still stand.

Here we go indeed! Thanks a lot, lie-berals. This is only the first step.

Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria.

I have to wonder if this was some weirdo trying to get his jollies, or some idiot trying to prove a point.

Either way, it is scary. Neither of those things have ever happened before, so we have to obviously blame this "equality" garbage. Get rid of this gender neutrality nonsense and let's go back to the good old days when creeps didn't exist.

[pylon]

Bottom line. If you are going to accept gender neutrality, then you have to accept that a lot of creeps will exploit the law. And there isn't a single thing you can do about it, if they are simply standing there gawking at pre-pubescent children. No laws are being broken by staring like a creep. Are you going to make the guy prove he's pre-op trans? Good luck with that. Will trans gendered individuals be forced to carry a card to prove it? I'm sure that would be entirely unconstitutional.

Perfect example of "Be careful what you wish for."

Sometimes prudish laws, have some merit for scenarios exactly like this one. In my opinion, the easiest solution is to force establishments to have a 3rd gender neutral washroom, where anyone is welcome, at their own risk. I can empathize with the plight of the trans community, but I can also empathize with parents that don't want 45 year old creeps abusing the system, gawking at their 12 year old daughters. You have to respect both sides.