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Frank the Tank · 08-23-2005, 08:14 AM

Criticize U.S. policy? Kill 'em!

Doesn't seem like a very Christian approach to things, does it?

Bobblehead · 08-23-2005, 11:13 AM

As far as the 10 Commandments go, he's still batting 900! (there's gotta be a joke about save percentage in there)

RougeUnderoos · 08-23-2005, 11:31 AM

I thought Robertson was dead. Apparently not.

It boggles the mind that there are people out there dumb enough to follow this guy and listen to what he says and, most importantly, send him money.

habernac · 08-23-2005, 11:42 AM

the Venezuelan people would be thankful. Hugo's been running the country into the ground for years.

Flame On · 08-23-2005, 12:28 PM

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Vice-President Jose Vicente Rangel said Venezuela was studying its legal options, adding that how Washington responds to Robertson's comments would put its anti-terrorism policy to the test.
"The ball is in the U.S. court, after this criminal statement by a citizen of that country," Rangel told reporters. "It's huge hypocrisy to maintain this discourse against terrorism and at the same time, in the heart of that country, there are entirely terrorist statements like those."

This is fataing classic. Talk about holding their feet to the fire, what're they going to do?
I guess they'll come out with some "our administration does not condone those comments" bs or something. Go against the church or go against terrorism which is it going to be US? lol

Cheese · 08-23-2005, 12:43 PM

ah Religous freaks...what would we do without them to make us laff!

A little Python break...

There are Jews in the world, there are Buddists,
There are Hindus and Mormons and then
There are those that follow Mohammad, but
I've never been one of them.

I'm a Roman Catholic,
And have been since before I was born,
And the one thing they say about Catholics is
They'll take you as soon as you're warm.

You don't have to be a six footer,
You don't have to have a great brain,
You don't have to have any clothes on,
You're a Catholic the moment Dad came, because

Every sperm is sacred,
Every sperm is great,
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate.

Every sperm is sacred,
Every sperm is great,
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate.

Let the heathen spill theirs,
On the dusty ground,
God shall make them pay for
Each sperm that can't be found.

Every sperm is wanted,
Every sperm is good,
Every sperm is needed,
In your neighborhood.

Hindu, Taoist, Morman,
Spill theirs just anywhere,
But God loves those who treat their
Semen with more care.

Every sperm is sacred,
Every sperm is great,
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate.

Every sperm is sacred,
Every sperm is good,
Every sperm is needed,
In your neighborhood.

Every sperm is useful,
Every sperm is fine,
God needs everybody's,
Mine, and mine, and mine.

Let the pagans spill theirs,
O'er mountain, hill and plain.
God shall strike them down for
Each sperm that's spilt in vain.

Every sperm is sacred,
Every sperm is good,
Every sperm is needed,
In your neighborhood.

Every sperm is sacred,
Every sperm is great,
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate.

Displaced Flames fan · 08-23-2005, 06:11 PM

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Originally posted by Flame On@Aug 23 2005, 06:28 PM

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Vice-President Jose Vicente Rangel said Venezuela was studying its legal options, adding that how Washington responds to Robertson's comments would put its anti-terrorism policy to the test.
"The ball is in the U.S. court, after this criminal statement by a citizen of that country," Rangel told reporters. "It's huge hypocrisy to maintain this discourse against terrorism and at the same time, in the heart of that country, there are entirely terrorist statements like those."

This is fataing classic. Talk about holding their feet to the fire, what're they going to do?
I guess they'll come out with some "our administration does not condone those comments" bs or something. Go against the church or go against terrorism which is it going to be US? lol

WTF are you and the Venezuelan VP talking about? The US government doesn't have to have ANY response whatsoever to this statement. Pat Robertson is nobody. He has the right to make such a statement in this country, no matter how loopy it is.

What freaking dilema could the US gov't possibly have here?

Wow.

browna · 08-23-2005, 06:17 PM

I think Pat Robertson's been watching the first 4 seasons of "24" on DVD.

Probably hoping secretly to coax Jack Bauer to head out on another solo mission.

Agamemnon · 08-23-2005, 06:18 PM

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WTF are you and the Venezuelan VP talking about? The US government doesn't have to have ANY response whatsoever to this statement. Pat Robertson is nobody. He has the right to make such a statement in this country, no matter how loopy it is.

What freaking dilema could the US gov't possibly have here?

Wow.

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Bush administration officials Tuesday disavowed Christian broadcaster Pat Robertson's call for the assassination of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez.

Soooo... does this make you an idiot?

Did you even know that Venezuela is the 5th largest exporter of oil in the world? This isn't just another banana republic, 59% of their oil (I believe) hits US markets. I'm sure if they looked hard enough, they could find other takers.

Statements/beliefs like yours make the US what it is today. Reap what you sow.

Displaced Flames fan · 08-23-2005, 06:24 PM

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Originally posted by Agamemnon@Aug 24 2005, 12:18 AM

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WTF are you and the Venezuelan VP talking about?# The US government doesn't have to have ANY response whatsoever to this statement.# Pat Robertson is nobody.# He has the right to make such a statement in this country, no matter how loopy it is.

What freaking dilema could the US gov't possibly have here?

Wow.

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Bush administration officials Tuesday disavowed Christian broadcaster Pat Robertson's call for the assassination of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez.

Soooo... does this make you an idiot?

Did you even know that Venezuela is the 5th largest exporter of oil in the world? This isn't just another banana republic, 59% of their oil (I believe) hits US markets. I'm sure if they looked hard enough, they could find other takers.

Statements/beliefs like yours make the US what it is today. Reap what you sow.

Excuse me?

Does the fact that the government chose to comment on Robertson's idiotic verbage make me an idiot? I don't see how. Maybe your superior intellect and moral standards would allow you to explain that one to me.

Yes, I know Venezuela is the 5th largest exporter of crude in the world. So the fata what? What the hell does that have to do with anything I said?

The US government is not responsible for what it's citizen's say. Period, end of story. We have free speech here.

The last line? What the fata are you talking about? Did you misunderstand what I said or something?

Flame On · 08-23-2005, 08:50 PM

So let me get this straight Dis, you think the US government wouldn't be passed; and by that I mean in a vocal official statement way, if a private citizen of say....and arab nation called for the death of Bush? Oh that's a private citizen with a voice and a following by the way. Not just some street flag burner.
Well at least your government agrees with me and distanced themselves from the "inappropriate" statements.
Thanks for you patriotic land of the free home of the brave "in this country we have free speech" gag-fest though.

Displaced Flames fan · 08-23-2005, 08:57 PM

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Originally posted by Flame On@Aug 24 2005, 02:50 AM
So let me get this straight Dis, you think the US government wouldn't be passed; and by that I mean in a vocal official statement way, if a private citizen of say....and arab nation called for the death of Bush? Oh that's a private citizen with a voice and a following by the way. Not just some street flag burner.
Well at least your government agrees with me and distanced themselves from the "inappropriate" statements.
Thanks for you patriotic land of the free home of the brave "in this country we have free speech" gag-fest though.

Again, WTF are you talking about?

Yeah, it's fine that they distanced themselves....but you mentioned that they had to choose between that and offending 'the church'.....there is no dilema there and that's what I was pointing out. They should have either ignored the idiot or done what they did. They had no responsibility to account for Robertson's words though. None.

I'm pretty sure highly visible private citizens of arab nations make such comments on a daily basis. I'm sure it's broadcast throughout the arab world. I'm also sure we aren't asking the governments of Egypt, Jordan and Oman to account for the statements of non-government officials.

What's the matter with the free speech point? Why does it make you sick? Are you in favor of supressing it or are you just one of those guys who hates anything that is the least bit proud about Americana?

Winsor_Pilates · 08-23-2005, 09:04 PM

From what I've seen, the US gov has handled it pretty well. I think they should comment on it, because of the high level of attention it is getting but they should be sure to distance themselves from Robertson instead of apologizing or being defensive.
They seem to have done just that.
The thing I find bothersome, is that guys like this can gather up such large followings of brainless morons.
Also, Global news was saying that Robertson is friends with Bush, which if true, adds to concerns of Bush as well.

Flame On · 08-23-2005, 09:11 PM

Well in the news report I watched it stated that Bush is a good friend of Robertson's and lets not forget his obvious friendlyness towards the religious right.
Does he pass them off for it not being "appropriate" or does he pass off a government that provides a large percentage of your oil and a world leader.
Not a position I'd like to be in? Would you? I'm not saying Bush dropped the ball or your precious republicans, just saying they're in a sticky wicket there!
Although you have to admit, the US; and quite rightly, condemns peoples in countries that have figures making similar comments. What was the term, if you harbour the terrorists you're with the terroists?
No i'm not complaining about you being proud but I know you're free down there as are many many other countries around the world. It's not unique or news to me at all. Frankly i found it patronizing.

MrMastodonFarm · 08-23-2005, 09:15 PM

Pat Robertson is hilarious, over the last month or so on his weekly program he has been praying for another Supreme Court Justice spot to open so another person with his views could jump on board.

Of course, they only way a spot opens is if someone dies.. since it's a job for life.. so he is praying for someones death. He rules.

Displaced Flames fan · 08-23-2005, 09:19 PM

My precious republicans?

Wow. That's not who I am. I may have voted for Bush, but I voted for a democrat in our Senate race. I also voted against an ammendment to our state constitution that would ban same sex marraige. Don't paint me as right wing bible thumper. I'm not even close.

I've never heard anything about Robertson being a friend of Bush. I'm sure he's a supporter and probably a donor to his campaigns. That doesn't make him a friend though. If Bush has a visible friendship with Robertson, that's a problem IMO.

I wasn't trying to be patronizing. I was just defending Robertson's right to make an ass of himself. Nothing more. You're the one who brought negative connotations to what I said. All I said is we have free speech. I'm very well aware that we aren't the only ones. I didn't need the lesson, so why give it? That's the problem with Americans speaking positively about their guaranteed rights. Others assume we think we're the only one's who have those rights. Why?

Reggie Dunlop · 08-23-2005, 09:24 PM

The only quibble I have with Robertson's statements is the inference that the government should do it all.

If Robertson wants Chavez bumped off, he ought to take up a collection from his flock and fund his own private militia.

RougeUnderoos · 08-23-2005, 09:32 PM

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Originally posted by Reggie Dunlop@Aug 23 2005, 09:24 PM
The only quibble I have with Robertson's statements is the inference that the government should do it all.

If Robertson wants Chavez bumped off, he ought to take up a collection from his flock and fund his own private militia.

I'm sure there are few followers of his who have stocked up and have plans for such actions. Too effing stupid of course to read a map and they'll probably end up clipping the Mayor of Venice Beach.

This story is getting a lot more play than I expected. It dominated the BBC International newscast tonight and I'm sure it'll get a lot of inches tomorrow in the papers.

Displaced Flames fan · 08-23-2005, 09:37 PM

I hope it continues to get coverage and he is forced off the air with his crap.

Reggie Dunlop · 08-23-2005, 09:40 PM

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Originally posted by RougeUnderoos@Aug 23 2005, 08:32 PM
I'm sure there are few followers of his who have stocked up and have plans for such actions. Too effing stupid of course to read a map and they'll probably end up clipping the Mayor of Venice Beach.

This story is getting a lot more play than I expected. It dominated the BBC International newscast tonight and I'm sure it'll get a lot of inches tomorrow in the papers.

That's the problem with Robertson I have. He's a little too pinko for me. Always after the government to do his bidding.

Hiring mercenaries is the Free Enterprise solution.