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Old 04-10-2015, 10:49 AM   #1
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Icon31 How did the Kings miss the playoffs?

Advanced stats would suggest that this shouldn't have happened, that these guys held the puck with the best of them:

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The thing is, it’s not like the Kings collapsed. They were the league’s top possession club (getting 54.9% of score-adjusted shot attempts) and still have the 13th-best goal differential (+0.22 per game), which is better than three playoff teams (Anaheim, Detroit and Vancouver).
http://www.tsn.ca/what-happened-to-the-kings-1.253079
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Old 04-10-2015, 10:51 AM   #2
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but ... the CORSI

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Can't score goals.
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They only got four of ten potential points against the Calgary Flames, while the Calgary Flames got eight of ten potential points against the LA Kings.
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Eventually advanced stats nerds will accept that not all shots are created equal.
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So in a 30 team league we have at LEAST two outliers. (The Flames and the Kings).

Methinks Corsi needs a methodology adjustment.
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Old 04-10-2015, 10:54 AM   #7
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They only got four of ten potential points against the Calgary Flames, while the Calgary Flames got eight of ten potential points against the LA Kings.
This.
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Old 04-10-2015, 10:54 AM   #8
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Would love to hear Quincy Egg explain it actually
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Old 04-10-2015, 10:54 AM   #9
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Because they didnt accumulate enough points to solidify a playoff spot in the western conference. Corsi can suck my balls!
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Eventually advanced stats nerds will accept that not all shots are created equal.
You just need to watch the Hudler/Jonny/Mony line to know that.
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Old 04-10-2015, 10:55 AM   #11
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advanced stats aside....

Losing Voynov and Mitchell really hurt them a lot. Tack on bad years from Kopitar and Brown, and the team just didn't "have it" this year.

Playoff race is incredibly close, hell the gap between us and Anahaim is only 10 points.
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They lost to the Oilers, twice.
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Couldn't score. Weren't they like 20th in scoring this year.
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because they got beat by the Flames?
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They have played a lot of hockey the last few years. They have what every team needs, a world class goalie, superstar defense man and established number one center. Supplemental scoring and just the massive amount of tough games takes its' toll.
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They only got four of ten potential points against the Calgary Flames, while the Calgary Flames got eight of ten potential points against the LA Kings.
This completely sums it up.
We beat them out of their spot this year; 15 other playoff teams can thank Calgary that they won't have any chance of facing the Kings.

LA's terrible OT/Shootout record was a big factor too.
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Because they weren't playing for each other enough of the time!
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advanced stats aside....

Losing Voynov and Mitchell really hurt them a lot. Tack on bad years from Kopitar and Brown, and the team just didn't "have it" this year.

Playoff race is incredibly close, hell the gap between us and Anahaim is only 10 points.
You also have to add the decision not to compliance buyout Richards when they had the chance. That was essentially $5.75 million dead cap space that they could have used to get some more scoring or fill the hole Mitchell left.
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Because corsi does not equal possession. Even the NHL recognizes that on their website.
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