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Old 01-20-2015, 11:52 AM   #1
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Like salty foods? Salt intake was not associated with mortality or risk for cardiovascular disease (CVD) and health failure (HF) in older adults based on self-reported estimated sodium intake, according to a study published online by JAMA Internal Medicine.

Data on sodium restriction among older adults are scarce, especially those with their blood pressure on target. Achieving a sodium intake of less than 1,500 mg/day as currently recommended for adults over 50 also is difficult for older adults in part because of long-held dietary habits. So the incremental benefit of restricting sodium to lower targets needs to be evaluated, according to background information.
http://media.jamanetwork.com/news-it...-older-adults/

About time some research is coming out on this. The RDA for sodium intake is completely overblown. Or underblown. Obviously more research needs to be done, but this is a good step.
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Does this mean I can stop feeling guilty every time I eat a double big mac?
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Old 01-20-2015, 01:19 PM   #3
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“In conclusion, we observed that sodium intake estimated by FFQ [food frequency questionnaire] was not associated with mortality or risk for CVD and HF in a cohort of adults 71 to 80 years old. … Our data emphasize the need for stronger evidence, preferably from rigorous controlled trials testing additional thresholds for sodium intake, before applying a policy of further sodium restriction to older adults beyond the current recommendation for the general adult population (2,300 mg/d),” the study concludes."

So if you are 71+ party on.
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So if you are 71+ party on.
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What about Cardiovascular risk in younger adults ?
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What about Cardiovascular risk in younger adults ?
I'll see later if I can find it, but the study associating salt intake with high blood pressure was stronger
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Old 01-20-2015, 01:47 PM   #7
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Also.. a huge issue with this study was that it was based on "self-reported estimated salt intake"
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That being said. Low salt diets can be just as harmful.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/recommen...sts-1407964274

Reducing salt into normal levels is likely the best course of action.
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That being said. Low salt diets can be just as harmful.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/recommen...sts-1407964274

Reducing salt into normal levels is likely the best course of action.

So what you're saying is everything in moderation is probably fine.
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So what you're saying is everything in moderation is probably fine.
unless you have active heart disease.
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Azure your thread title is completely misleading. You CNN'd the scientific study.

It really should read.

More study is required if the effects of a reduced sodium diet are effective in reducing mortality or heart disease in the elderly.
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Azure your thread title is completely misleading. You CNN'd the scientific study.

It really should read.

More study is required if the effects of a reduced sodium diet are effective in reducing mortality or heart disease in the elderly.
Haha, the first thing I thought of was those typical articles everyone hates on the internet

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Azure your thread title is completely misleading. You CNN'd the scientific study.

It really should read.

More study is required if the effects of a reduced sodium diet are effective in reducing mortality or heart disease in the elderly.
There are lots of studies being done showing that the fear of sodium intake is completely overblown.

This is just adding to it.

Obviously more research needs to be done. Just like with anything else.
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Citing a single study is generally worthless, and especially when it comes to anything diet related.

Wait for the metastudies, ignore the noise.
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There are lots of studies being done showing that the fear of sodium intake is completely overblown.

This is just adding to it.

Obviously more research needs to be done. Just like with anything else.
You're totally right, but this is a bad one
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Citing a single study is generally worthless, and especially when it comes to anything diet related.

Wait for the metastudies, ignore the noise.
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Citing a single study is generally worthless, and especially when it comes to anything diet related.

Wait for the metastudies, ignore the noise.
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Related anecdote:

One would be surprised at the number of patients who come into the heart failure clinic, year after successive year, and claim that they're sticking strong to their diet and exercise regimen, yet continue to gain weight. How confusing!

Letting patients self report for cardiovascular health reminds me of the days in physics class when everyone would have their quizzes graded by the friend sitting behind them.
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just a drive by...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17100171
http://www.diseaseproof.com/archives...is-normal.html
http://www.worldactiononsalt.com/sal...sheets/stroke/
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About time some research is coming out on this. The RDA for sodium intake is completely overblown. Or underblown. Obviously more research needs to be done, but this is a good step.
It's a sample size of 2500ish 71-80 year olds who were self reporting their intake via questionairre. To be honest I struggle to have much confidence in it.

And then they suggest rigourous controlled trials?
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