03-04-2011, 01:05 PM
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Scoring Winger
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Don't tell me it closed down? They were doing well from what i remember. Best bubble tea in town in my opinion.
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03-04-2011, 01:24 PM
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: I went west as a young man
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I have heard they sold that location to a bakery and are still running their other new location on 1st and 14th.
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03-04-2011, 01:25 PM
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I think it primarily moved to Edmonton.
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03-04-2011, 01:25 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Calgary.
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03-04-2011, 01:28 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: DeWinton, AB
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Bubble Tea was a fad that has kind of died out, like Cupcakes will do in a year or 2.
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03-04-2011, 01:29 PM
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My face is a bum!
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I guess you never saw the line up out the door then, huh?
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03-04-2011, 01:33 PM
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Scoring Winger
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Hard to sell a location when it is leased. I think the fad is over.
Bubble tea was a huge Hong Kong/Taiwan thing that was driven by most Hong Kong immigrants. Since the immigrants from Hong Kong mostly dried up because the fear of the handover to China was over hyped there isn't much demand. Plus who wants a slushy cold drink when it's -20 outside anyways.
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Originally Posted by socktape
I have heard they sold that location to a bakery and are still running their other new location on 1st and 14th.
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03-04-2011, 02:02 PM
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: I went west as a young man
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Well okay then, maybe they either broke/let the lease expire or transferred/sublet it to the Bakery.
I think that the other location was better for business... the foot traffic for where they were wasn't ideal, busy at lunch... not so much otherwise.
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03-04-2011, 02:16 PM
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Scoring Winger
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I think that the Subway took a huge piece of their business at the 2nd location. It is empty or near empty every day at noon. I think that is the location they pitched on Dragon's Den.
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Originally Posted by socktape
Well okay then, maybe they either broke/let the lease expire or transferred/sublet it to the Bakery.
I think that the other location was better for business... the foot traffic for where they were wasn't ideal, busy at lunch... not so much otherwise.
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03-04-2011, 02:20 PM
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Has lived the dream!
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Where I lay my head is home...
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I saw them on Dragon's Den 2 years ago I think it was. They wanted to franchise and finally won the Dragons over for funding to do that, and got all five of them in on it as to receive expertise too. Would have thought something would have happened with all that. Said they wanted to become the Tim Hortons of tea. Now that's obviously impossible, but shows that they did want to grow it big.
I know they did bubble tea, but I thought they had a lot of other stuff too. I stopped in once and had a regular cold tea of some sort. Always found bubble tea to be in asian shops, delis, and restaurants. In fact I first ran into it in Australia (as I have never been to asia). But Atomic seemed to be a bit different from that, even if they did offer some bubble teas.
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03-04-2011, 03:19 PM
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: I went west as a young man
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Apparently even if you strike a deal with the Dragon's on the show it isn't necessarily a done deal. If you don't cash the cheque so to speak then obviously there isn't a deal to be had.
Sort of like those Saskatchewan kids that were on the show a little while ago that were turning old containers into field trailers. To me... while they had a great idea and got a decent "deal" from the dragons... I don't know that they really needed the money all that badly.... they were already a success story in the making. I imagine if they really wanted to grow fast then yes they could use the money... but I digress....
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03-04-2011, 03:25 PM
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My face is a bum!
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I talked to the female owner of Atomic about a year and a half ago, and they were the only ones that had gone through with the whole Dragon's Den process all the way up to that point.
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03-04-2011, 03:25 PM
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Scoring Winger
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I never understood why they sold 50% of Atomic for 100k. Look at Thai Thai, they started at about the same time now they have 4 locations with a 5th opening soon all done without investors.
http://www.thaitaisub.com/
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03-04-2011, 03:27 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Victoria, BC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TylerSVT
Bubble Tea was a fad that has kind of died out, like Cupcakes will do in a year or 2.
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Sorry, did you just say Cupcakes are a fad?
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03-04-2011, 03:34 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by HotHotHeat
Sorry, did you just say Cupcakes are a fad?
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Apparently, his mother didn't love him as a child.
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03-04-2011, 03:44 PM
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: I went west as a young man
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Originally Posted by AMG_G
I never understood why they sold 50% of Atomic for 100k. Look at Thai Thai, they started at about the same time now they have 4 locations with a 5th opening soon all done without investors.
http://www.thaitaisub.com/
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I could be wrong but I think that Thai Thai has a broader menu and a larger capital base to begin with. They were able to gain more customers quicker by their location selection and offerings. I would think it would be easier to market a full menu shop where your main food offering is the draw (subs) vs marketing a drink that might be seen more by customers as a novelty.
You look at Jugo and Booster Juice... they had more of a health connotation with their initial marketing and it served them really well. Atomic and bubble tea one would think would not be in that same category and by that time Jugo and Booster were already flooding the market.
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03-04-2011, 03:50 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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I guess you never saw the line up out the door then, huh?
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Wasn't that more because they were so damn slow?
Regardless they still have to location in the Hotel Arts annex.
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03-04-2011, 03:51 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: DeWinton, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by socktape
Apparently even if you strike a deal with the Dragon's on the show it isn't necessarily a done deal. If you don't cash the cheque so to speak then obviously there isn't a deal to be had.
Sort of like those Saskatchewan kids that were on the show a little while ago that were turning old containers into field trailers. To me... while they had a great idea and got a decent "deal" from the dragons... I don't know that they really needed the money all that badly.... they were already a success story in the making. I imagine if they really wanted to grow fast then yes they could use the money... but I digress....
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All the deals have to go through due diligence before they go through, often times i imagine the deals fall through because they were not pitched correctly.
In terms of cupcakes being a fad, i would say places like Crave and whatnot are defiantly a fad, will make way for the next fad, waffles or something else.
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03-04-2011, 03:53 PM
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: I went west as a young man
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there we go... A CP waffle store! Who's in?
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