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Old 02-04-2011, 04:37 PM   #1
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I cannot even grasp how little these tribes know of their world. It's so fascinating.

Can't embed the video, but it's at the bottom of this link:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_818621.html
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Old 02-04-2011, 04:50 PM   #2
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I saw this on BBC the other day. The one thing I don't get is why the researchers go on about how unethical it is to make contact but thought it would be acceptable to film these people with a low flying plane.

The tribes people are clearly freaked the @#@ out by the plane, and who knows what seeing that plane is going to do to their society.
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I thought they had a huge track of land reserved for a native bushman, saw a show called the loneliest man alive ???

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I saw this on BBC the other day. The one thing I don't get is why the researchers go on about how unethical it is to make contact but thought it would be acceptable to film these people with a low flying plane.

The tribes people are clearly freaked the @#@ out by the plane, and who knows what seeing that plane is going to do to their society.

Better a plane from over a kilometer away then a logging truck running them over and being shot at.
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Better a plane from over a kilometer away then a logging truck running them over and being shot at.
The thing is, they already have photo shots of these people. Everyone knows they are there.
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The thing is, they already have photo shots of these people. Everyone knows they are there.
Except in the video they explain that this proof is important because the Peruvian government is denying they are there.
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If you've been out and about at any bookstores in the past couple of years, you may have seen/read the book 'The Lost City of Z'

http://www.projo.com/books/content/B...8.136b953.html

It's an extremely fascinating account of an explorer (Percy Fawcett) who befriended some Amazon Indians and eventually disappeared in the Amazon. What was most fascinating to me wasn't the accounts of the Indians (although they were amazing), but his stories of surviving the jungle. The bugs alone killed most people, and that doesn't even touch on the wild animals, snakes, and bacteria in the water, etc. One of his fellow explorers went into the river and got a really painful little fish in what I would imagine to be a most excruciating place for a man..

As the video says, the common cold could kill one of these Indians but what they face in their every day life would and could kill one of us. Thanks for the link! Great article/video.
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That video was awesome. Looked like I was watching the scenes of the jungle in Pandora.
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Haha...

There is a good Edmonton joke in here somewhere...
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I saw this on BBC the other day. The one thing I don't get is why the researchers go on about how unethical it is to make contact but thought it would be acceptable to film these people with a low flying plane.

The tribes people are clearly freaked the @#@ out by the plane, and who knows what seeing that plane is going to do to their society.
I'm curious, is it ethical to leave them be and have 50% of the newborns die at birth.... How about old age being 30 yrs old?

The reaction to these remote tribes is "we must study them from afar.."

Sorry but I find it unethical to do so, the fact these people struggle to even live, let alone exist means they would benefit from careful and staggered contact from the outside world.

Its the opposite of what most people feel, but we have a ethical duty to help and improve the situation of these people, not watch them from afar like some caged monkeys for our amusement.
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I'm curious, is it ethical to leave them be and have 50% of the newborns die at birth.... How about old age being 30 yrs old?

The reaction to these remote tribes is "we must study them from afar.."

Sorry but I find it unethical to do so, the fact these people struggle to even live, let alone exist means they would benefit from careful and staggered contact from the outside world.

Its the opposite of what most people feel, but we have a ethical duty to help and improve the situation of these people, not watch them from afar like some caged monkeys for our amusement.
Are you assuming that these people are unhappy? It seems you are..

They don't know anything else outside of their own current reality. For all they know, high infant death rate is a fact of life.

I say leave them be.
If they want to join the masses some day, I'm sure they will be welcomed to do so.
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I've always thought it would be interesting if a tribe like this developed some sort of metal working on their own, and essentially advanced independently of the rest of the globe. Who knows, maybe they could come up with stuff that wasn't thought of during our version of modernization.
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I'm curious, is it ethical to leave them be and have 50% of the newborns die at birth.... How about old age being 30 yrs old?

The reaction to these remote tribes is "we must study them from afar.."

Sorry but I find it unethical to do so, the fact these people struggle to even live, let alone exist means they would benefit from careful and staggered contact from the outside world.

Its the opposite of what most people feel, but we have a ethical duty to help and improve the situation of these people, not watch them from afar like some caged monkeys for our amusement.
Altering their way of life could have long term consequences. You bring in the outside world and expose them to a new way of life and you may as well haul them out of the jungle and place them in modern day society. One group goes into help and it creates a slippery slope where others want to help. Not long after that the way they'ved lived their life is forever changed. Leave them be and let them live the life they've always known.
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I'm curious, is it ethical to leave them be and have 50% of the newborns die at birth.... How about old age being 30 yrs old?

The reaction to these remote tribes is "we must study them from afar.."

Sorry but I find it unethical to do so, the fact these people struggle to even live, let alone exist means they would benefit from careful and staggered contact from the outside world.

Its the opposite of what most people feel, but we have a ethical duty to help and improve the situation of these people, not watch them from afar like some caged monkeys for our amusement.
A view that is not uncommon but are more prominent in the unenlightened. I suggest you read up on cultural relativism.

Or watch Star Trek.
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Send in the missionaires!! These people need to be saved.
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These people need to be on Oprah.
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wasnt this proved to be fake by the Brazilian government a few years ago.
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Are you assuming that these people are unhappy? It seems you are..

They don't know anything else outside of their own current reality. For all they know, high infant death rate is a fact of life.

I say leave them be.
If they want to join the masses some day, I'm sure they will be welcomed to do so.
Years ago I read about a Mayan tribe in Mexico that was "uncontacted" until the 1980s - supposedly the last native population in Mexico that was still on their own. Because of expanding tourism, the government decided to build a road through their land and since then, most have voluntarily opted to integrate into mainstream Mexican society.

I say give them the choice.
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