MF YYC Politics - there, I mega did it

[corporatejay]

Sorry, this isn't a "gotcha" moment. You can't declare a climate emergency while then encouraging employees to drive to work instead of taking transit.

Again, if this is truly an emergency, then it shouldn't matter if their lease requires them to take spots or not, this is about the future of our planet.

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by 81MC

Also, they don’t actually specify how many of those 1000 passes are for the municipal parkade. Pretty sure their OWCs require parking passes for staff.

is this an emergency or not?

[para transit fellow]

Originally Posted by chemgear

Wasn't the climate emergency declaration the very first order of business for our mayor?

i don't follow your point, the 1100 parking passes were issued back in 2020

[Looch City]

Have any of you bothered to go on the city website and read what/why the emergency is?

Or just using this as the main sticking point for hur dur mayor is anti Berta??

[timun]

C'mon Looch, you know the answer to that question...

[Cappy]

Any time someone says "hey, this climate change is real, we should do something"

It is usually met with:

"Oh yeah, you and your plastic phone and your gas car and your clothes and your house! you are such a GD hypocrite!!"

[Bill Bumface]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

Sorry, this isn't a "gotcha" moment. You can't declare a climate emergency while then encouraging employees to drive to work instead of taking transit.

Again, if this is truly an emergency, then it shouldn't matter if their lease requires them to take spots or not, this is about the future of our planet.

Do you want to triple your taxes to pay for people like building inspectors to ride the bus all day? I thought corporatejay was all about hating on bureaucratic inefficiencies?

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by Bill Bumface

Do you want to triple your taxes to pay for people like building inspectors to ride the bus all day? I thought corporatejay was all about hating on bureaucratic inefficiencies?

If it’s an emergency we should be doing everything we can, cost be damned. Our planet and future is literally at stake.

[Bill Bumface]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

If it’s an emergency we should be doing everything we can, cost be damned. Our planet and future is literally at stake.

Yup, but grinding things to a halt will result in poverty, famine and violence. It's a delicate balance. Prosperity leads people to have the capacity to make better choices (that typically cost more). If we stopped burning fossil fuels all together tomorrow, society would crumble, and progress would stop.

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by Cappy

Any time someone says "hey, this climate change is real, we should do something"

It is usually met with:

"Oh yeah, you and your plastic phone and your gas car and your clothes and your house! you are such a GD hypocrite!!"

Reminiscent of

[btimbit]

Slow news day indeed.

How dare they let people park their cars at their place of employment. Those bastards

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

If it’s an emergency we should be doing everything we can, cost be damned. Our planet and future is literally at stake.

Care to share your experience with giving up your car, walking everywhere, giving up meat, and moving your home to solar? Might be helpful for all of us trying to do a little more. What else are doing that’s been contributing to the cause?

Tell us about it.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by btimbit

Slow news day indeed.

How dare they let people park their cars at their place of employment. Those bastards

It isn’t just about staff parking. The City gives out passes allowing some personnel to use street parking anywhere in the city for free.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

It isn’t just about staff parking. The City gives out passes allowing some personnel to use street parking anywhere in the city for free.

So without knowing how many or for the reason, we just assume it's a bad thing and get mad

Then people wonder why the city isn't more vocal

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by btimbit

So without knowing how many or for the reason, we just assume it's a bad thing and get mad

Then people wonder why the city isn't more vocal

I’m not outraged about it. Just pointing out that the City isn’t being slammed just because staff can use the parkade under City Hall.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

I’m not outraged about it. Just pointing out that the City isn’t being slammed just because staff can use the parkade under City Hall.

They're being slammed because an article says 'Hurr Durr left wing politicians bad' with absolutely zero context. It points out that such passes exist...... that's it

[Cappy]

I could think of several city employees whose duties and responsibilities would make it necessary to have such parking passes.

Or should we just go back to the good ol days when there were secret handshake deals with parking authorities not to ticket so and so

[Bill Bumface]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

It isn’t just about staff parking. The City gives out passes allowing some personnel to use street parking anywhere in the city for free.

You mean so they can travel around the city which they are employed to administer and perform their job duties? Would you rather have a department of people hired to process their parking expense receipts so they can pay for parking to appease the desired optics?

[timun]

God, was it on this forum where someone was irate about the city councillors getting a car allowance as part of their compensation, and how it was absolutely egregiously high? Maybe I saw it on Reddit... Anyway, they were vehement that the policy was BS, they should just expense mileage "like the private sector", and it was pointed out that 1) they'd probably end up expensing more in mileage than the car allowance, 2) it's simpler and less expensive overhead (acct.) for the City to just pay them an allowance than to manage mileage on expense reports, and 3) that's precisely why in the private sector many companies pay their employees a car allowance in the first place! The whole thing was just pants-on-head stupid...

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Care to share your experience with giving up your car, walking everywhere, giving up meat, and moving your home to solar? Might be helpful for all of us trying to do a little more. What else are doing that’s been contributing to the cause?

Tell us about it.

I didn’t declare a performative emergency