04-27-2022, 01:20 PM
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#162
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Shanghai
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One of Musk's earlier tweets about what he would like to see implemented on twitter regarding payments was that having a blue checkmark would be something you pay a small fee for. This checkmark would still be different from those of recognized public figures, but would be intended to be affordable for people while being cost prohibitive for bot farms that open thousands of accounts. Not sure this really makes a lot of sense to me, and would seem like implementation wouldn't be easy without also making it cost prohibitive for a lot of regular people from poorer places in the world, but it's an idea he has tweeted about recently.
Also, Twitter already does have a paid version called Twitter Blue. It allows for easier thread reading, elimination of ads, tweet editing, verified ownership of NFT profile pictures, and a few other things I think. I don't know what usage stats are for it, and haven't used it myself, but it was introduced for around $4/month a few months ago.
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04-27-2022, 03:55 PM
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#164
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Lifetime Suspension
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There are good reasons for him to get cold feet. The biggest is Tesla. The electric-vehicle maker’s stock has fallen around a fifth since Musk first revealed his stake in Twitter, partly because Musk may sell shares to fund his new adventure. If Tesla’s stock bounces back – likely if the Twitter deal falls away – the $40 billion of recouped wealth would more than make up for the break fee.
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6 weeks ago TSLA was under $770 the author of that article is clueless. Maybe Musk won't actually buy Twitter but it will have zero to do with Tesla.
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04-27-2022, 03:56 PM
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#165
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Sr. Mints
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He fixed Flints water, built millions of ventilators, built a submarine to rescue kids, and solved world hunger, there's no way he's not going to follow through.
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04-27-2022, 04:28 PM
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#166
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Calgary
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Yeah the 10% discount of TWTR shares vs the bid price tells us that this isn't close to a done deal.
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04-27-2022, 04:49 PM
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#167
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: east van
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Originally Posted by burn_this_city
Yeah the 10% discount of TWTR shares vs the bid price tells us that this isn't close to a done deal.
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of course, its an insane over valuation of the company by any normal method of stock assessment
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04-27-2022, 11:16 PM
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#168
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AFireInside
He fixed Flints water, built millions of ventilators, built a submarine to rescue kids, and solved world hunger, there's no way he's not going to follow through.
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Now you've done it. Get ready for impotent rage from Musk nerds.
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04-27-2022, 11:30 PM
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#169
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AFireInside
He fixed Flints water, built millions of ventilators, built a submarine to rescue kids, and solved world hunger, there's no way he's not going to follow through.
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And called one of the actual rescuers "pedo boy"
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04-28-2022, 12:23 PM
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#171
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Meh. I think as long as he's really what he thinks he is it will be fine as center is where you want to be. He really needs to change that photo. I get that he likes his aviators but there's nothing more obnoxious than sunglasses in your profile photo. It makes his face more punchable than it already is.
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04-28-2022, 12:51 PM
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#172
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Such a pretty girl!
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Calgary
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04-28-2022, 12:55 PM
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#173
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Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Pickle Jar Lake
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He makes these grandiose statements, like he is some altruistic thinker, then moments late ridicules and bullies people like a teenager. He's not really a person to idolize for his way of thinking, yet so many do.
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04-28-2022, 12:55 PM
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#174
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Meh. I think as long as he's really what he thinks he is it will be fine as center is where you want to be. He really needs to change that photo. I get that he likes his aviators but there's nothing more obnoxious than sunglasses in your profile photo. It makes his face more punchable than it already is.
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Also, the notion that the far right hasn't moved is dumb as hell. Trump, QAnon, etc.
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04-28-2022, 12:56 PM
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#175
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Originally Posted by BlackArcher101
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Which is an incredibly stupid statement.
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04-28-2022, 01:50 PM
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#176
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Setting aside Musk’s politics and public behaviour, anyone who thinks suppressing misinformation on social media is straightforward is delusional. It’s an incredibly difficult problem.
Scientific progress relies on unrelenting criticism of the status quo. And in fields like psychology that already suffer from a replication crisis (most of the classic studies taught for decades have been discredited), there’s almost no such thing as firmly established consensus. But there are institutions that have an interest in suppressing dissent, and which can make plausible arguments that dissenting theories inflict harm.
https://erikhoel.substack.com/p/elon...the-crisis?s=w
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Originally Posted by fotze
If this day gets you riled up, you obviously aren't numb to the disappointment yet to be a real fan.
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04-28-2022, 01:53 PM
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#177
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Pickle Jar Lake
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Of course it isn't easy. But ignoring the issue isn't really working out all that well, either. And before you ask, no I don't have a solution.
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04-28-2022, 01:55 PM
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#178
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
Setting aside Musk’s politics and public behaviour, anyone who thinks suppressing misinformation on social media is straightforward is delusional. It’s an incredibly difficult problem.
Scientific progress relies on unrelenting criticism of the status quo. And in fields like psychology that already suffer from a replication crisis (most of the classic studies taught for decades have been discredited), there’s almost no such thing as firmly established consensus. But there are institutions that have an interest in suppressing dissent, and which can make plausible arguments that dissenting theories inflict harm.
https://erikhoel.substack.com/p/elon...the-crisis?s=w
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Sure, I guess, on the suppressing misinformation is easy part (is anyone really arguing otherwise?). But is there any reasonable argument to suggest that removing or greatly limiting moderation will be effective in suppressing misinformation? That seems to be what Musk is suggesting. Public square nonsense, as if the public square doesn't have rules and moderation.
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04-28-2022, 02:01 PM
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#179
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Had an idea!
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He isn't saying it shouldn't have moderation, but that the moderation should be based on what the law actually says in terms of what is considered free speech & what isn't.
There are lots of examples of Twitter not abiding by lawful free speech rules when it came to banning users or blocking posts.
But that is all worthless if he can't make money with it. I think there is potential, but it needs to be done the right way. One big thing I think that will happen is cutting 25% of the staff. For a platform that is pretty crappy, it sure has a lot of employees.
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04-28-2022, 02:03 PM
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#180
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Azure
There are lots of examples of Twitter not abiding by lawful free speech rules when it came to banning users or blocking posts.
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Except Twitter is a private company and only subject to its own ToS. They provide a platform for speech, but they are not bound by free speech laws anymore than any other business is.
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