2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[Bonded]

Lindholm sure isn’t taking a discount to Horvat

[FlamesAddiction]

wrong thread.

[SuperMatt18]

If you're Lindholm I'm not sure you're asking for anything under $9.5M

He clearly isn't super happy here based on the rumors, maybe that all goes away with Sutter being fired but there is likely more to it than that.

He just saw Kadri get $7 and Huberdeau get $10.5M. Gaudreau and Tkachuk both around $9.5M.

My gut is his ask is going to be $9.5M x 8 years and he's probably not that motivated to move off of it.

[Major Major]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

If you're Lindholm I'm not sure you're asking for anything under $9.5M

He clearly isn't super happy here based on the rumors, maybe that all goes away with Sutter being fired but there is likely more to it than that.

He just saw Kadri get $7 and Huberdeau get $10.5M. Gaudreau and Tkachuk both around $9.5M.

My gut is his ask is going to be $9.5M x 8 years and he's probably not that motivated to move off of it.

Perfect situation Imo. It's not you, it's me Elias. Sure, we can still be friends. Click

[iloveicedhockey]

He's just been underpaid pretty much for the duration of his existing contract (which he signed) so he's not going to make that error again. He wants his payday.

[InternationalVillager]

Lindholm at $9.5M is a solid no go for me. He's not elite.

[NewFan]

I still think the Blue Jackets is perfect fit for Lindholm. They have enough cap space, and they should be already sick missing playoffs few years. Can they wait until 3rd OA make impact soon? Does their GM have a time to wait?
Johnny-Lindholm-Laine line should be one of the best 1st line next 4-5 years. And they have few prospects to help them.
I hope Leo Carlsson had a bad interview with Blue Jackets and they decide to trade
Lindholm & Vladar for 3OA.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by InternationalVillager

Lindholm at $9.5M is a solid no go for me. He's not elite.

Same. I think we should retain him if we can but anything over 9 and I am in favour of trading him instead.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by NewFan

I still think the Blue Jackets is perfect fit for Lindholm. They have enough cap space, and they should be already sick missing playoffs few years. Can they wait until 3rd OA make impact soon? Does their GM have a time to wait?
Johnny-Lindholm-Laine line should be one of the best 1st line next 4-5 years. And they have few prospects to help them.
I hope Leo Carlsson had a bad interview with Blue Jackets and they decide to trade
Lindholm & Vladar for 3OA.

I think the Jackets will trade for Johnny's buddy Kevin Hayes. They will get him for pennies on the dollar, much cheaper than Lindholm. They can probably get the Flyers to retain salary as well.

[stemit14]

At this point, it feels like the moment Lindholm signs a deal with the flames, he will become the new whipping boy so I hope he is traded… not because I don’t like him as a player but because the appetite to keep him seems to have really turned. Unless he comes in at a really low AAV (say $7.5 million), he will be picked on by fans as over paid and too old.


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[blankall]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

If you're Lindholm I'm not sure you're asking for anything under $9.5M

He clearly isn't super happy here based on the rumors, maybe that all goes away with Sutter being fired but there is likely more to it than that.

He just saw Kadri get $7 and Huberdeau get $10.5M. Gaudreau and Tkachuk both around $9.5M.

My gut is his ask is going to be $9.5M x 8 years and he's probably not that motivated to move off of it.

Lindholm had 64 points last year, tied for 80th with Killorn, Trochek, Dunn, etc.... He's had one ppg season in his career, and that was riding shotgun to gaudreau and Tkachuk. Lindholm gets a boost for being a defensively solid center, but that kind of money is absurd for Lindholm.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by blankall

Lindholm had 64 points last year, tied for 80th with Killorn, Trochek, Dunn, etc.... He's had one ppg season in his career, and that was riding shotgun to gaudreau and Tkachuk. Lindholm gets a boost for being a defensively solid center, but that kind of money is absurd for Lindholm.

Most UFA cap are insane value. Someone likely pays it.

[jaydub74]

Originally Posted by blankall

Lindholm had 64 points last year, tied for 80th with Killorn, Trochek, Dunn, etc.... He's had one ppg season in his career, and that was riding shotgun to gaudreau and Tkachuk. Lindholm gets a boost for being a defensively solid center, but that kind of money is absurd for Lindholm.

When Kadri is getting 7, Lindholm is certainly worth more.


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[ForeverFlameFan]

I just don’t like the way Lindholm’s exit interview went.

You know you’re not the only one that dislikes Sutter
You know you’re not the only one with an off year
You know you’re not the only one frustrated

And yet you come out unprofessional, sulking and telling the media you have one more year left on your deal, and that’s it?

Loved having you here, but take that attitude elsewhere. I don’t care if that just came from the Sutter era, but that rubbed me the wrong way and imo was a slap to the face of the organization that gave you the chance of becoming a top 6 center. He grew so much here, could still remain a fan favorite if he extends. But for the sake of the franchise I want new blood, new faces, younger players.

[robertsfanatic]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Same. I think we should retain him if we can but anything over 9 and I am in favour of trading him instead.

agreed on this and in an ideal world he comes in around $8.5

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by blankall

Lindholm had 64 points last year, tied for 80th with Killorn, Trochek, Dunn, etc.... He's had one ppg season in his career, and that was riding shotgun to gaudreau and Tkachuk. Lindholm gets a boost for being a defensively solid center, but that kind of money is absurd for Lindholm.

I don't disagree.

But Horvat got $8.5M and Lindholm is more prolific offensively and better defensively.

Barzal is $9.1M and Lindholm has put up more points and is better defensively for sure.

Over the last 3 seasons Lindholm is 0.89 Points per game, Barzal is 0.83 PPG, and Horvat was 0.78 points per game.

I'm not saying I'd pay him $9.5M but I don't see why he wouldn't ask for it and why he'd have much incentive to budge off that number if he isn't 100% certain he wants to re-sign here anyways.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by InternationalVillager

Lindholm at $9.5M is a solid no go for me. He's not elite.

I love Lindholm. But he has scored more than 64 points only twice in his career, and once in the last four seasons. Both times playing with Gaudreau, and once playing with Tkachuk and Gaudreau. GMs are going to be skeptical he can be that productive playing with non-elite passers, or centering a 2nd line (which is where he’ll slot in on almost every team that would trade for him).

[dustygoon]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

8 X $8.9M?

I…wouldn’t do it. It’d be tripling down on a roster structure that is old and won’t win in eyes.

When signing Kadri, how did Treliving not contemplate and factor in this type of contract for Lindholm coming down the pike?

It basically was a choice between Kadri or Lindholm at these prices.

He chose paying a 32 year 2nd line center $7mm a year vs paying a 29 year old 1st line center $8.5mm a year.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by dustygoon

When signing Kadri, how did Treliving not contemplate and factor in this type of contract for Lindholm coming down the pike?

It basically was a choice between Kadri or Lindholm at these prices.

He chose paying a 32 year 2nd line center $7mm a year vs paying a 29 year old 1st line center $8.5mm a year.

You don't know how much pressure/direction from ownership he was under to win at all costs?

Perhaps he already knew that Lindholm had no intention of extending?

Calgary can afford Lindholm, they just need to manage other assets to accommodate him.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by dustygoon

When signing Kadri, how did Treliving not contemplate and factor in this type of contract for Lindholm coming down the pike?

It basically was a choice between Kadri or Lindholm at these prices.

He chose paying a 32 year 2nd line center $7mm a year vs paying a 29 year old 1st line center $8.5mm a year.

A few possibly non-mutually exclusive reasons: A. They were obviously going all in after winning the division but falling short in the POs. B. Lindholm is likely gone anyway. C. While Lindholm’s production looked to be worth that in his previous season, maybe the team thinks he’s mainly a product of his linemates. This year sure indicates that.