Money is why they had so many meandering storylines. Stretch things out as long as possible, squeeze a couple more seasons. But realistically with tighter writing and pacing they could have wrapped things up with maybe a 12-13 episode season six.
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I think you missed the point of the article. The point was that in the first 4 seasons, when somebody ####ed up they paid a steep price. When they challenged the wrong person, showed poor judgement, or lead with their heart and not their head, blood was spilled. Whether they were a good person or an audience favourite was irrelevant. Every choice had consequences. Folly was punished.
I get the point and admit there is some truth to it.
Just pointing out that closing up some storylines had to be done quickly to move forward towards a conclusion and that article conveniently omits that.
Theyre also choosing to ignore any stories that don't fit their arguement.
How about Jorah being a spy on Danyres and almost getting her killed in season 1 or 2.
He conveniently got away with that Folly unpunished.
That's just 1 example I thought of in 2 seconds which is worse than Sam & the sword.
If you dissect the first 4 seasons as closely as the recent ones, I'm sure there's many more.
Theyre also choosing to ignore any stories that don't fit their arguement.
How about Jorah being a spy on Danyres and almost getting her killed in season 1 or 2.
He conveniently got away with that Folly unpunished.
He got banished from Dany's inner circle and ends up getting greyscale, I wouldn't exactly call that un-punished.
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One thing that hasn't really been mentioned yet, is that we now appear to be in "no more extra lives" territory, with the departure of the red woman.
From this point forward, if you die, that's it by the looks of things. Will be fascinating to see how it plays out..
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We have no reason for why after 8,000 years the NK woke up. We don’t know why he wanted Bran, or what killing Bran would accomplish. We don’t know why he wanted sacrificial babies. Why he made symbols out of body parts. What would he have done if he killed Bran?
This isn’t a secondary villain: this is the big bad from the opening scene of the pilot. Jon Snow’s whole raison d’etre. The source of magic and mystery throughout the show. A guy who can kill dragons with lances. Ok, forget that part.
The NK deserved better treatment, as did the WW, and so from my POV did the whole series.
Actually, we know the foundation to a lot of these questions.
The NK never slept, he was always there. After being driven back by the first men he has been building his army. Only White Walkers can resurrect the dead, hence the baby sacrifices...he was amassing/growing "Generals", I suppose you could call them. And slowly as those north of the wall died, he built his army from the dead. With a Dragon he was able to fall the wall, which had magical properties preventing the White Walkers from crossing it (it's why Uncle Benjen could never return home, he was part White Walker).
The NK wanted Bran because he is all of man's knowledge and history. The NK was created by the Children of the Forest to protect them against the first men. Their entire purpose and motivation is to kill people and wipe humanity from the world. It's not complex, but there it is.
It seems like a let down that 7.5 seasons of build ended in the first battle of Winterfell, but it's not like the writers did a disservice to the power and threat of the undead. Had it not been for a trained assassin everyone would have been dead. All these great northern Houses, the Dothraki, the Unsullied, the Vale, all major characters in the battle. At least I got the feeling it was that dire in the closing moments.
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I think the people pining for negative consequences to actions will get their wish when the decimated alliance armies sans 1-2 dragons march south. With a bonus of Jaime and Tyrion now moving against a pissed off double crossed Cersei and Bronn. There's three 1.5 hour long episodes left so lots of time for death and despair.
I also think a lot of the claims about plot armour are a bit misplaced. Jorah and Theon were two major characters that have been in the show since episode 1. I think maybe because they weren't as popular people don't count their deaths as substantial but Jorah alone probably has almost as many lines and screen time as The Hound, Brienne, and Podrick combined.
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Pretty big strategical error by the Night King. If you are the only thing keeping an entire army alive, maybe best to stay on your throne and let your dudes do the fighting. Bring me Wheelchair kid, I'll be hanging out here enjoying some nice iced margaritas.
It would be like the Death Star's exhaust port walking into Yavin Base and hunting down Luke. No reason for that risk!
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Pretty big strategical error by the Night King. If you are the only thing keeping an entire army alive, maybe best to stay on your throne and let your dudes do the fighting. Bring me Wheelchair kid, I'll be hanging out here enjoying some nice iced margaritas.
It would be like the Death Star's exhaust port walking into Yavin Base and hunting down Luke. No reason for that risk!
I think the idea was that the NK needed to make physical contact with Brann on some urgent basis. He was under the impression that the path was safe and all the humans had been defeated... What he didn't account for? Arya the super stealthy ninja, who goes undetected.
The problem isn't with the NK's strategy, but the powers being given to Arya. It makes for a cool moment, but she unlikely one. That being said Arya did train with a group of people with supernatural powers.
Eh, I think it was more due to arrogance. You could see it in how he dealt with John. And how he dealt with Theon. The arrogance allowed Arya to get the drop on him.
And, I mean, plot too, obviously. But the logical choice would be to stay home and have him brought to you.
I think they just ran out of time to tell the story in the way we are used to. They could not keep this young cast together forever. And, running out of source material.
That and the show was getting more expensive by the year as how long could ratings warrant $90 million a season budget? This isn't TWD where they are always filming outside of Atlanta with the same small cast and some zombie effects. The show is extremely expensive with a massive cast filming in different parts of the world.
We have no reason for why after 8,000 years the NK woke up. We don’t know why he wanted Bran, or what killing Bran would accomplish. We don’t know why he wanted sacrificial babies. Why he made symbols out of body parts. What would he have done if he killed Bran?
This isn’t a secondary villain: this is the big bad from the opening scene of the pilot. Jon Snow’s whole raison d’etre. The source of magic and mystery throughout the show. A guy who can kill dragons with lances. Ok, forget that part.
The NK deserved better treatment, as did the WW, and so from my POV did the whole series.
-Probably because it was the start of the next natural winter in Planetos, and it seems they thrive off of cold and darkness. And because of human conflicts like at Craster's they had stopped sacrificing the babies, which if wiki theories are to be believed, might be part of some sort of pact made after the first Long Night to keep him and his forces at bay.
-They literally showed you why he wanted sacrificial babies. So he can turn them into his white walker generals.
-They already stated what killing Bran would accomplish. Were you paying attention during episode 2? He represents the memories and history of mankind. He wants to wipe that out to ensure an endless night. As Sam puts it "what are we without our memory?"
-What else would he make what appears to be his signature symbol out of to be unmistakably his? What else would make a more fitting statement from the embodiment of death?
Some things are better left to be wondered about, even though I think most things you were asking about were answered, even if it wasn't spelled out by the night king himself to every one in a history classroom. A little bit of wonder adds to the frightfulness and mystique of it all. If it was all laid out in a way that wouldn't be game of thrones at all, then you'd all say "really? that's what I thought. that's lame." Deep down you know the definitive answers wouldn't satisfy you. The whole appeal of the NK threat is the mystery surrounding it.
This dissecting of everything is like all the whiny critics on RT that just sound like the incessant child in the backseat that says "but why?....but why?..... why though?"
Just enjoy the ride and don't think it to death, pun intended.
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I also think a lot of the claims about plot armour are a bit misplaced. Jorah and Theon were two major characters that have been in the show since episode 1. I think maybe because they weren't as popular people don't count their deaths as substantial but Jorah alone probably has almost as many lines and screen time as The Hound, Brienne, and Podrick combined.
Two major characters with redemption arcs who had "DESTINED TO DIE HEROICALLY" stamped on their foreheads for the last three seasons.
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If it was all laid out in a way that wouldn't be game of thrones at all, then you'd all say "really? that's what I thought. that's lame." Deep down you know the definitive answers wouldn't satisfy you. The whole appeal of the NK threat is the mystery surrounding it.
