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Old 06-18-2021, 04:44 PM   #13881
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I don’t understand why? Reinhart is looking to sign a 6-8 year deal and just scored 25 goals in 53 games. Monahan is coming off 2.5 years of down play with 2 years left on a deal where he needs to do a lot better to justify his salary.
He is a good player to take a chance on, would like the Flames to take a run. Rhs center, or rw. we need both!
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Old 06-18-2021, 05:06 PM   #13882
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Any team could have had Fleury for the same deal Vegas got, for free along with a 2nd pick. Only Vegas took them up on that offer. Fleury wasn’t looking that good at that time.

Karlsson was a third liner who blossomed with increased ice time.

Marchessault was considered a pretty good player but due a big raise which Florida was reluctant to pay. Reilly Smith looked more like a cap dump to most. Theodore was a good prospect for sure.

These players were not universally though of star players. Vegas did a spectacular job of identifying players who they thought could be modded into a cohesive team and, if given the opportunity,could improve.


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That’s the point. I think it’s flat out wrong to say that Vegas doesn’t have stars and is just built on depth. Since their inception they have had anywhere between 3-6 guys playing at a star level caliber. They are stacked.
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Old 06-18-2021, 05:11 PM   #13883
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If anyone listened to the Fan 960 discussions about Rittich this year and around the trade deadline. Or even his interviews after being traded. Basically he had aspirations to be a #1 here but once we signed Markstrom, he felt his time here was over . His direct quote was something like "I want to play for a team that believes in me"
So the KHL it is.
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Old 06-18-2021, 05:45 PM   #13884
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https://twitter.com/user/status/https://twitter.com/KevinWeekes/status/1406029503269412866

Poor Minny if Kaprizov bolts after a promising season.
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Old 06-18-2021, 05:49 PM   #13885
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Or they could pay him FMV?


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Old 06-18-2021, 06:08 PM   #13886
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That'd be the biggest D bag move. Win ROTY and just blip yourself out of existence and a Minnesota wild jersey.
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twitter link doesn't work...what's the story?

Is he going since he is 45 (because him being a rookie is a joke)
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Old 06-18-2021, 06:12 PM   #13889
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twitter link doesn't work...what's the story?

Is he going since he is 45 (because him being a rookie is a joke)
I dont understand.

24 is too old to be a rookie or something?
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Old 06-18-2021, 06:15 PM   #13890
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I dont understand.

24 is too old to be a rookie or something?
I imagine his objection is his 3 years playing for Moscow in the KHL. Like some didn’t like Stone’s 2 years in the NHL plus 23 NHL games before his rookie season.
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Old 06-18-2021, 07:17 PM   #13891
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I imagine his objection is his 3 years playing for Moscow in the KHL. Like some didn’t like Stone’s 2 years in the NHL plus 23 NHL games before his rookie season.

Makarov was 31 when he won the Calder. The rule was shortly changed so you need to be 25 or younger.


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Old 06-18-2021, 07:22 PM   #13892
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Since he has limited leverage, it seems like a sensible tactic for Kaprizov

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Old 06-18-2021, 09:59 PM   #13893
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Reinhart would a perfect fit. As long as he comes in signed long term to a hometown discount. :

Hoglander - Petey - Boeser
Pearson - Horvat - Reinhart
Roussel - Miller - Podkolzin
Motte - Graovac - MacEwen
Didn't Sam Reinhart grow up a Flames fan, or was that his brother (Max)?
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Old 06-18-2021, 10:14 PM   #13894
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I dont understand.

24 is too old to be a rookie or something?
More the fact that he has played multiple years of pro hockey
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Old 06-19-2021, 09:47 AM   #13895
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Didn't Sam Reinhart grow up a Flames fan, or was that his brother (Max)?
Yep, before the draft Sam Reinhart said the Flames were his favorite team.
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More the fact that he has played multiple years of pro hockey
Is the KHL really that distinct from the other Euro leagues, or even the AHL?
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Old 06-19-2021, 10:10 AM   #13897
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Is the KHL really that distinct from the other Euro leagues, or even the AHL?
Skill wise I would say no. Pay wise, definitely yes.
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Old 06-19-2021, 11:22 AM   #13898
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I just don't see the appeal of Reinhart. His skating is not great so unless Monahan is going the other way, I'm not interested in adding another top 6 forward who doesn't move well.

The family also has a rocky relationship with the organization. I'm not sure the Flames get a hometown discount on a long term contract. He wants to play in Vancouver, his hometown. The report is he wants to go to the "Westcoast", Calgary is not "Westcoast".

I'd only acquire Reinhart if I were to flip him for JT Miller, who I think is a much better player, faster, stronger, grittier. Also buds with Gaudreau from their WJC Gold medal win together as linemates. There's less control on his contract so I'd expect a bit more from Vancouver.

If you could flip Monahan (plus or not?) for Reinhart and then flip Reinhart for Miller (plus or not?), I think that might make sense for all teams involved.

Buffalo apparently has some interest in Monahan;
Reinhart and Vancouver have mutual interest;
Miller apparently isn't happy in Vancouver and the Flames get a bit faster and grittier in the top 6.

I think a top 6 of Gaudreau, Lindholm, Tkachuk, Miller, Mangiapane is a competitive group. Miller can play some centre and did with Gaudreau at the WJC, that gives you two good lines with speed and skill and enough grit.

Gaudreau-Miller-Dube
Tkachuk-Lindholm-Mangiapane

Maybe try and acquire a legitimate top 6 RW and push Dube down to the third line with Lucic and Backlund.
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Old 06-19-2021, 11:58 AM   #13899
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Miller apparently isn't happy in Vancouver
Haven't heard that before. Then again I don't pay much attention to Vancouver
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Old 06-19-2021, 12:32 PM   #13900
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Haven't heard that before. Then again I don't pay much attention to Vancouver
He wasn’t happy that Canucks management let so many good players leave last off season. He had every right to be miffed. They let a lot of quality players leave for nothing.
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