07-22-2018, 09:59 AM
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Scoring Winger
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Cruz did not say Gunn should be prosecuted, he said he should be investigated. I would tend to agree that these vile tweets are at least circumstantial evidence warranting further investigation. I mean, Gunn literally claimed he's had sex with children multiple times. That needs to be looked into.
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07-22-2018, 10:09 AM
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#1362
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Lifetime Suspension
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I can't believe people are defending Gunn here. I don't care what anyone else did or how they came to light those tweets are way over the line. They are not funny at all.
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07-22-2018, 10:17 AM
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#1363
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
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Originally Posted by zamler
I can't believe people are defending Gunn here. I don't care what anyone else did or how they came to light those tweets are way over the line. They are not funny at all.
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No one is defending Gunn. He sent the tweets and admitted it. There’s not much debate anywhere as to whether they are tasteless or not.
Fact is though, Disney knew about this. Anyone who cared to look knew about this. Vilifying a guy for 10 year old unfunny tweets seems extreme and unnecessary. What’s the point? It accomplished nothing.
Honestly, why does anyone care? Do you actually think he’s a pedo? If yes, sure, lock him up. If not, who gives a crap? What does vilifying him accomplish? Moral outrage that he purposely intended to be shocking?
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07-22-2018, 10:43 AM
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#1364
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Craig McTavish' Merkin
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Originally Posted by FunkMasterFlame
Cruz did not say Gunn should be prosecuted, he said he should be investigated. I would tend to agree that these vile tweets are at least circumstantial evidence warranting further investigation. I mean, Gunn literally claimed he's had sex with children multiple times. That needs to be looked into.
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He says prosecuted in this tweet.
https://twitter.com/user/status/1020665661486522368
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07-22-2018, 10:54 AM
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#1365
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by DownInFlames
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Fair enough. To be fair he does say if these tweets are true, which would imply an investigation would have to happen first.
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07-22-2018, 10:57 AM
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#1366
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Lifetime In Suspension
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Jeez where'd all the free speech advocates disappear to? Weird.
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07-22-2018, 11:21 AM
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#1367
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by ResAlien
Jeez where'd all the free speech advocates disappear to? Weird.
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Im not sure how this is a free speech issue? Gunn used his speech freely to advocate pro-pedophilia positions and make crude child rape "jokes". Hes now facing the consequences of his actions.
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07-22-2018, 11:27 AM
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#1368
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by FunkMasterFlame
Cruz did not say Gunn should be prosecuted, he said he should be investigated. I would tend to agree that these vile tweets are at least circumstantial evidence warranting further investigation. I mean, Gunn literally claimed he's had sex with children multiple times. That needs to be looked into.
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Within the context of something that is clearly false and meant to be a shocking 'joke.'
Sure, investigate him, but that would be like throwing every rapper in jail every time they mentioned drugs or violence in a song. It seems like a waste of law enforcement resources, I mean, seriously, people are getting this up in arms over tweets that constitute jokes in poor taste, if he'd actually raped a child in his life evidence and complaints would have shown up long before now.
I dont think tweets constitute a credible admission of guilt. This is much ado about nothing.
It reminds me that British comedian that got fined for teaching his dog to do the Nazi salute. Society is losing it's collective minds.
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07-22-2018, 11:36 AM
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#1369
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Locke
Within the context of something that is clearly false and meant to be a shocking 'joke.'
Sure, investigate him, but that would be like throwing every rapper in jail every time they mentioned drugs or violence in a song. It seems like a waste of law enforcement resources, I mean, seriously, people are getting this up in arms over tweets that constitute jokes in poor taste, if he'd actually raped a child in his life evidence and complaints would have shown up long before now.
I dont think tweets constitute a credible admission of guilt. This is much ado about nothing.
It reminds me that British comedian that got fined for teaching his dog to do the Nazi salute. Society is losing it's collective minds.
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This isnt a Hitler-saluting dog meme, and its not a bunch of bragging rappers. They arent "jokes". No 42 year old man "jokes" hundreds of times about how aroused he gets by raping and molesting children. This isnt youthful indescretion. He was often exchanging child molestation "jokes" with covicted child pornographers. He was caught red-handed deleting years worth of tweets. These are not the actions of an innocent man with nothing to hide.
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07-22-2018, 11:36 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Tweeting one or two crude jokes about children is one thing, highly questionable but could attribute to being stupid. The volume of such tweets from Gunn is what I find disturbing.
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Originally Posted by Locke
Sure, investigate him, but that would be like throwing every rapper in jail every time they mentioned drugs or violence in a song.
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I don't think this and talking about children in a sexual context is comparable.
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07-22-2018, 11:36 AM
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#1371
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Franchise Player
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What I don't get is how social media outrage is quantified, and how the people who sanction their underlings determine where the line is where they 'have to do something.' Only a small fraction of people use twitter, and only a tiny fraction of those express outrage at these sorts of gaffes and offensives comments.
What would happen if twitter storms were simply ignored by the people in charge? Marginally more twitter outrage? Okay, ignore that too. 90+ per cent of people don't give a crap about any of this stuff.
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07-22-2018, 11:39 AM
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
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Originally Posted by FunkMasterFlame
This isnt a Hitler-saluting dog meme, and its not a bunch of bragging rappers. They arent "jokes". No 42 year old man "jokes" hundreds of times about how aroused he gets by raping and molesting children. This isnt youthful indescretion. He was often exchanging child molestation "jokes" with covicted child pornographers. He was caught red-handed deleting years worth of tweets. These are not the actions of an innocent man with nothing to hide.
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And you just went from maybe he should be investigated to full on conspiracy theory he’s a guaranteed pedo. Probably time to pump the brakes on the wild accusations.
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07-22-2018, 11:45 AM
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
And you just went from maybe he should be investigated to full on conspiracy theory he’s a guaranteed pedo. Probably time to pump the brakes on the wild accusations.
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I didnt say maybe he should be investigated, I said he should be investigated, as his vile texts are indicative of a criminal mindset. Excuse me for thinking hundreds of pro-pedophile tweets might mean hes a pedophile.
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07-22-2018, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
What I don't get is how social media outrage is quantified, and how the people who sanction their underlings determine where the line is where they 'have to do something.' Only a small fraction of people use twitter, and only a tiny fraction of those express outrage at these sorts of gaffes and offensives comments.
What would happen if twitter storms were simply ignored by the people in charge? Marginally more twitter outrage? Okay, ignore that too. 90+ per cent of people don't give a crap about any of this stuff.
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Its Disney's choice. Obviously they are afraid of the bottom line.
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07-22-2018, 11:53 AM
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by FunkMasterFlame
This isnt a Hitler-saluting dog meme, and its not a bunch of bragging rappers. They arent "jokes". No 42 year old man "jokes" hundreds of times about how aroused he gets by raping and molesting children. This isnt youthful indescretion. He was often exchanging child molestation "jokes" with covicted child pornographers. He was caught red-handed deleting years worth of tweets. These are not the actions of an innocent man with nothing to hide.
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Is the bolded factual? I have only seen the few tweets that are included in the Ted Cruz link.
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07-22-2018, 12:00 PM
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#1376
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Franchise Player
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Ignoring Gunn, I think we can all laugh at Cruz trying to take the moral high ground on anything while he sits by letting his country get ####ed by the Russians led by a guy who basically #### all over his wife.
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07-22-2018, 12:02 PM
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#1377
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by nik-
Ignoring Gunn, I think we can all laugh at Cruz trying to take the moral high ground on anything while he sits by letting his country get ####ed by the Russians led by a guy who basically #### all over his wife.
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Not to mention the fact that Cruz is also a serial killer.
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07-22-2018, 12:08 PM
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#1378
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by FunkMasterFlame
Cruz did not say Gunn should be prosecuted, he said he should be investigated. I would tend to agree that these vile tweets are at least circumstantial evidence warranting further investigation. I mean, Gunn literally claimed he's had sex with children multiple times. That needs to be looked into.
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I've told hundreds of dead baby jokes, one of my favourite songs ever is Last Caress by the Misfits . Maybe I should be investigated too.
People seriously need to take a chill pill.
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07-22-2018, 12:09 PM
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#1379
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by icecube
Is the bolded factual? I have only seen the few tweets that are included in the Ted Cruz link.
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Its sadly very true. Heres a link to an article with a lot more of the tweets than what Cruz put out, including his correspondence with Huston Huddleston, a man convicted of posessing child porn.
https://steemit.com/informationwar/@...for-baby-groot
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07-22-2018, 12:11 PM
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#1380
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Grimbl420
I've told hundreds of dead baby jokes, one of my favourite songs ever is Last Caress by the Misfits . Maybe I should be investigated too.
People seriously need to take a chill pill.
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I have no problem with edgy jokes, unless of course you were "joking" about all the dead babies you yourself had murdered and how awesome it made you feel. Then I would get justifiably suspicious.
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