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Old 01-26-2023, 11:04 AM   #681
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Wasn't sure where to put this but interesting read on the future of streaming services and how it's not the money maker it used to be......

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/bu...23-1235302958/
I could have told you that with my eyes closed.

Streaming is (was?) a great idea.

Until everyone had to have their own streaming service, it fractured into a million different competing content providers and now each service is essentially just its own 'channel' providing its own content 'on demand.'

We just full circle. A slate of streaming services is essentially just cable with more steps.
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Old 01-26-2023, 11:11 AM   #682
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I could have told you that with my eyes closed.

Streaming is (was?) a great idea.

Until everyone had to have their own streaming service, it fractured into a million different competing content providers and now each service is essentially just its own 'channel' providing its own content 'on demand.'

We just full circle. A slate of streaming services is essentially just cable with more steps.
But that's not really what the article is about. The number of streaming services isn't really relevant if none of them can make money regardless of how many subscribers they have.

It's about how ad revenue is lower than TV and production costs are rising, meaning it is harder and harder to make money.

It's not even really accurate to say streaming services aren't the money maker they used to be. They never have been. Netflix only worked when they were able to build a catalog of second run programs for cheap. As soon as first run programming became a staple, they hit a wall.

Streaming generates lower revenue across the board and by a huge number. The article says six times lower than cable.
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Old 01-26-2023, 01:57 PM   #683
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I don't think studios realized how much they would be missing home video and sales rental revenue once it dried up. Let's take the new Avatar movie that made over $2 billion at the box office, once it's done in theatres it will go straight to Disney+. Is there anyone that doesn't already have Disney+ that is going to sign up for it just to see Avatar 2? The first Avatar made over $400 million in home video sales not to mention hundreds of millions in rental revenue from Blockbusters probably. I don't see how Avatar 2 is going to be anywhere near as profitable post theatrical window as the first.
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Old 01-26-2023, 03:54 PM   #684
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I don't think studios realized how much they would be missing home video and sales rental revenue once it dried up. Let's take the new Avatar movie that made over $2 billion at the box office, once it's done in theatres it will go straight to Disney+. Is there anyone that doesn't already have Disney+ that is going to sign up for it just to see Avatar 2? The first Avatar made over $400 million in home video sales not to mention hundreds of millions in rental revenue from Blockbusters probably. I don't see how Avatar 2 is going to be anywhere near as profitable post theatrical window as the first.
I don't know if that's a totally fair way to look at it. The streaming services do need new contact to retain existing customers. If a program is getting a lot of individual streams, it's a good indicator that the program is contributing to keeping existing customers.
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Old 02-18-2023, 08:55 AM   #685
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Will do interesting to see how AntMan will preform at the box office. Off to a strong start already

https://twitter.com/user/status/1626682206994288652
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Old 02-18-2023, 09:44 AM   #686
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Will do interesting to see how AntMan will preform at the box office. Off to a strong start already

https://twitter.com/user/status/1626682206994288652
Id bet on bad legs though. Nothing in this will have people needing to see.
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Old 02-18-2023, 12:18 PM   #687
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Id bet on bad legs though. Nothing in this will have people needing to see.
Hard to say, Venom had Stacey Keibler legs and wasn't a critical darling.
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Hard to say, Venom had Stacey Keibler legs and wasn't a critical darling.
Marvel has a built in fanbase that always results in relatively high pre sales and openings. I don't see Quantumania having great legs.

I was somewhat excited to see it. Now that I've seen the reviews I may wait until it streams.
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Avatar 2, takes over 3rd overall All-time International box office.
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Yep collapsing at the box office. Maybe that’ll be a wake up call for Marvel, this will probably be the norm going forward
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Old 02-26-2023, 10:08 PM   #692
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Marvel may have just beaten BVS for worst 2nd weekend drop for a comic book movie. I suspect it squeaks by when actual come it but right now the estimates have it about .5% points worse

I think guardians needs to reset the narrative and to do that they just need to make a good movie. If guardians under performs then the Marvels is in real trouble and then you are heading into the Star Wars situation.
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Creed 3 with a bigger opener than all other Rocky movies combined? Great reviews so far too.
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Creed 3 with a bigger opener than all other Rocky movies combined? Great reviews so far too.
Not wanting to derail the thread, but Life magazine has lots of tributes to the original rocky movies.
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