American Politics 3.0 - Back to Brunch

[jayswin]

Was that DerekSutton stuff complaining about illegals in America followed by admitting to using them, satire? Was that satire? It had to be satire of some kind, right?

[GirlySports]

And here's what parroting "Blue No Matter Who" allows for. National party jumps in late to save an anti-abortion, NRA A-rated "Dem" against a challenge from the left.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1529324810911854598

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

And here's what parroting "Blue No Matter Who" allows for. National party jumps in late to save an anti-abortion, NRA A-rated "Dem" against a challenge from the left.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1529324810911854598

Cuellar also had his home raided by the FBI earlier this year, I believe. The party is completely hypocritical and full of ####, but apparently pointing that out means you'd prefer Trump.

Meanwhile, in completely unrelated news...
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/bid...os-2022-05-24/

WASHINGTON, May 24 (Reuters) - U.S. President Joe Biden's public approval rating fell this week to 36%, the lowest level of his presidency, as Americans suffered from rising inflation, according to a Reuters/Ipsos opinion poll completed on Tuesday.

In a sign of weakening enthusiasm among Democrats, Biden's approval rating within his own party fell to 72% from 76% the prior week.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Biden does not market himself well at all. Barely says a peep, even if his admin does something well.

Trump was twitter every day talking about how fantastic he was for the country, how he was getting all these things done, throwing numbers out with exclamation marks non-stop. Of course a lot of it was just pure B.S. but I will give him credit, he would market the heck out of himself.

Joe is old and quiet. Even if everything he and his admin did was a positive and good for the country we would barely know about it.

Him running again next election and being the nominee is going to be a disaster.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Biden does not market himself well at all. Barely says a peep, even if his admin does something well.

Trump was twitter every day talking about how fantastic he was for the country, how he was getting all these things done, throwing numbers out with exclamation marks non-stop. Of course a lot of it was just pure B.S. but I will give him credit, he would market the heck out of himself.

Joe is old and quiet. Even if everything he and his admin did was a positive and good for the country we would barely know about it.

Him running again next election and being the nominee is going to be a disaster.

I don't know. His presidency has gone pretty much exactly as I predicted it would.

In a country that badly needed fresh ideas, Biden has produced the same stale politics and policies he's produced his entire career. Those in turn have continued to produce the same results that tend to birth and strengthen fascist and authoritarian sympathies. And what do you know, we're headed for a likely GOP sweep in November, and I'd be shocked if they don't take the White House in 2024.

Whether you want to blame Manchin/Sinema, Biden, the GOP, etc., it's pretty obvious that the capture of the U.S. Government by corporate interests is essentially complete.

[Inglewood Jack]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Biden does not market himself well at all. Barely says a peep, even if his admin does something well.

Trump was twitter every day talking about how fantastic he was for the country, how he was getting all these things done, throwing numbers out with exclamation marks non-stop. Of course a lot of it was just pure B.S. but I will give him credit, he would market the heck out of himself.

Joe is old and quiet. Even if everything he and his admin did was a positive and good for the country we would barely know about it.

Him running again next election and being the nominee is going to be a disaster.

what a terrible state of affairs that the president has to now devote a portion of his time to marketing himself to the public. one of Biden's campaign promises was that you would finally stop hearing about the wacky things happening in the executive branch every single day, and they'd just be quietly going about business. the fact that this is now seen as a negative is just another nail in the coffin of normal, sensible government.

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by Inglewood Jack

what a terrible state of affairs that the president has to now devote a portion of his time to marketing himself to the public. one of Biden's campaign promises was that you would finally stop hearing about the wacky things happening in the executive branch every single day, and they'd just be quietly going about business. the fact that this is now seen as a negative is just another nail in the coffin of normal, sensible government.

Quiet competence works if peoples' lives are materially improving, but that's hardly the case. Obviously you can't pin most of the issues (inflation, high gas prices, war in Ukraine, etc.) on the current administration, but average voters are hardly experts on macroeconomics and international relations.

[burn_this_city]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Was that DerekSutton stuff complaining about illegals in America followed by admitting to using them, satire? Was that satire? It had to be satire of some kind, right?

Of course not, the entire reason illegals remain illegal is so folks like his cousin can prey on them to save a buck. That story is as old as America itself, prey on disadvantaged immigrants and force them into a generation or two of indentured servitude.

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by opendoor

Quiet competence works if peoples' lives are materially improving, but that's hardly the case. Obviously you can't pin most of the issues (inflation, high gas prices, war in Ukraine, etc.) on the current administration, but average voters are hardly experts on macroeconomics and international relations.

Inflation aside (which granted is a huge issue) - people's lives are approximately a zillion times better than they were 2 years ago - which as you may recall involved millions of people losing their jobs and being locked down.

Until the temperature is turned down in the US - its just a random pool of rage that will hate basically every politician.

[Fuzz]

edit: wrong thread again!

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

Of course not, the entire reason illegals remain illegal is so folks like his cousin can prey on them to save a buck. That story is as old as America itself, prey on disadvantaged immigrants and force them into a generation or two of indentured servitude.

While complaining about them being in the country in the first place and blaming people for being soft on the border.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by opendoor

Quiet competence works if peoples' lives are materially improving, but that's hardly the case. Obviously you can't pin most of the issues (inflation, high gas prices, war in Ukraine, etc.) on the current administration, but average voters are hardly experts on macroeconomics and international relations.

#### being an expert. I'd take an American who has a basic working knowledge of government so they can understand what they can and cannot control. This issue is the result of the terrible civics education that most people get down here.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by rubecube

it's pretty obvious that the capture of the U.S. Government by corporate interests is essentially complete.

The only thing you've ever said that is accurate about US politics.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

#### being an expert. I'd take an American who has a basic working knowledge of government so they can understand what they can and cannot control. This issue is the result of the terrible civics education that most people get down here.

It is very sad that a series like this is required watching for Americans, just so they can get their heads wrapped around the idea of government and what value it provides.

https://www.netflix.com/title/81037116

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by Inglewood Jack

what a terrible state of affairs that the president has to now devote a portion of his time to marketing himself to the public. one of Biden's campaign promises was that you would finally stop hearing about the wacky things happening in the executive branch every single day, and they'd just be quietly going about business. the fact that this is now seen as a negative is just another nail in the coffin of normal, sensible government.

I'm not saying I like it, just that I think that's what is happening here. Trump was a disaster, a terrible human being and had no idea what he was doing. But he would go on twitter and TV and make himself out to be the best thing ever.....touting any little single thing that made him look good, and in the mean time bashing and insulting anybody and anything on the left.

It's gross politics, it's sad, and..........it's probably going to work when he runs again.

[Matata]

Politics is mostly a puppet show put on by the elites in order to sell the public the illusion of the system working for them and to keep them focused on highly divisive, sensational issues that don't really matter to the elites. Any discussion on politics that doesn't revolve how to wrestle control of our institutions back from these incredibly evil and corrupt forces is inherently farcical in nature.

[rubecube]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1529549515006550022

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Matata

Politics is mostly a puppet show put on by the elites in order to sell the public the illusion of the system working for them and to keep them focused on highly divisive, sensational issues that don't really matter to the elites. Any discussion on politics that doesn't revolve how to wrestle control of our institutions back from these incredibly evil and corrupt forces is inherently farcical in nature.

Yep. It's essentially pro wrestling taking place on cable news networks and social media.

[jammies]

The US completed its transformation into a corporatist mockery of democracy sometime between the 50s and 80s, this is just the coda to the systemic failure experienced then.

Not that it was ever as good as the propaganda made it out to be, but their government had at least some fealty to ideals beyond money and power. The worst thing to ever happen to America was becoming a superpower and assuming that this new role was divinely inspired destiny: it never takes long for hubris to bring on illusions of infallibility and virtue.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by rubecube

https://twitter.com/user/status/1529549515006550022

Cutting police funding is incredibly unpopular with U.S. voters.