Things are turning ugly in the town where it happened. A police officer was hit with a brick and was seriously injured. Protesters are surrounding the police station and the police are apparently calling for snipers to take position on the roof according to the police radio.
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I dont blame them, they shoot the guy for not obeying orders, anyone else does that its 1st degree murder, basically the US police seem unable to master even the basics of being a human let alone being a policeman
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Of course it happened again. Over a thousand people a year are killed by police in the USA. 13% of the population is black. It's not even slightly surprising that it happened again.
Even if black people weren't more likely to be shot by police on a per-encounter basis (on which the data is hazy), and even if black people weren't more likely to find themselves in an encounter with the police in the first place (on which the data is not hazy), just based on population, you'd expect this to happen over a hundred times every year - more than once a week.
If every time a black person is shot by a police officer, the surrounding area devolves into anarchy, there's going to be a whole lot of anarchy going on for the foreseeable future.
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Of course it happened again. Over a thousand people a year are killed by police in the USA. 13% of the population is black. It's not even slightly surprising that it happened again.
Even if black people weren't more likely to be shot by police on a per-encounter basis (on which the data is hazy), and even if black people weren't more likely to find themselves in an encounter with the police in the first place (on which the data is not hazy), just based on population, you'd expect this to happen over a hundred times every year - more than once a week.
If every time a black person is shot by a police officer, the surrounding area devolves into anarchy, there's going to be a whole lot of anarchy going on for the foreseeable future.
How can you tell the GOP consider the protesters to be fundamentally beneath them?
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Under the new law, demonstrators who camp on state property—as scores have been doing in front of the state’s Capitol building since George Floyd’s killing earlier this year—can now be charged with a Class D felony, up from the misdemeanor it was previously
Tennessee is one of 21 states that punishes felons by taking away their right to vote, and Gov. Lee made it clear that this threat is meant as a warning to the protestors
Watching the live feeds from Wisconsin. So far the cops seem very tenative on handling the crowd . Surprisingly showing alot of restraint probably so they don't make the news like other cities. Police spoters are just pointing out certain people and relaying it over the megaphone to other police to photograph the aggressive ones.
Once the police pushed the protestors back a block away from the court house. It seemed all had died down untill a small group of people went and destroyed a car lot amd broke in and stole the key box. Then started multiple fires to cars and now buildings,
Several dozen private citizens and looks like more walking on the streets now decked up playing swat with assualt rifles definitely not police by any stretch not that fancy of gear.
Most the Wisconsin feeds going off air as people are going home once all these fires and "malitia" starting to show up.
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That's not only unconstitutional but a civil rights violation. Ah, the GOP. Defenders of the constitution and rule of law party!
To the video from Kenosha, that was the perfect scenario for a use of non-lethal force (taser). Officer had plenty of back-up and had space to take action. Complete training failure. Qualified immunity will prevent this guy from being prosecuted and be left to kill again.
Of course it happened again. Over a thousand people a year are killed by police in the USA. 13% of the population is black. It's not even slightly surprising that it happened again.
Even if black people weren't more likely to be shot by police on a per-encounter basis (on which the data is hazy), and even if black people weren't more likely to find themselves in an encounter with the police in the first place (on which the data is not hazy), just based on population, you'd expect this to happen over a hundred times every year - more than once a week.
If every time a black person is shot by a police officer, the surrounding area devolves into anarchy, there's going to be a whole lot of anarchy going on for the foreseeable future.
I think you are entirely missing the point of the protests. The point is not that people are shot by police, it is that police murder citizens when they are not a threat. That their brutality goes totally unchecked. Add into that the systematic racism that causes black communities to interact with police more, and you have a whole lot of oppressed people.
There are millions of positive police interactions every year. There are plenty of justified police shootings. But the fact that social media can now amplify how many brutality incidents there are has really changed things. I shudder to think of how many incidents like these have occurred over the years and been glossed over with false reports. We've seen instances where they've still tried to lie their way out of it only to later have video evidence turn up that calls them out.
It's not a matter of minority communities just wanting to protest every time a person of color is shot. Many of these incidents are flat out murder. I know you are smart enough to know all this, so honestly what is your point here?
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I thought my point was pretty clear - I set it out in the last paragraph. Even if you're only talking about unarmed people shot by police, you're still looking at a couple of times a month, in terms of it happening to black people, and obviously more often than that if you expand it to all races. If there are going to be riots and people hitting each other in the head with bricks and snipers on roofs every time that happens, there's inevitably going to be rather a lot of it, because there's always going to be another video just around the corner. Even if, through herculean effort, the rate at which this sort of event happens were to be cut in half, that would still be true. That does not seem like it bodes well for the near-term future stability of the USA.
It's actually your point that I'm not clear on. Murder is bad, people are angry, and social media has allowed people to broadcast these videos more broadly? I'm pretty sure we've all noticed.
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It's not a matter of minority communities just wanting to protest every time a person of color is shot. Many of these incidents are flat out murder. I know you are smart enough to know all this, so honestly what is your point here?
If these incidents are cut on half, there will be still be enough captured on film to stir our outrage regularly. If they're cut in half again there will still be enough. And if they're cut in half again we'll still be seeing them.
Progress on this issue (as with pretty much every social ill) will be measured over years or decades and in statistical numbers. That sounds cold-blooded and clinical, but it's the truth.
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If these incidents are cut on half, there will be still be enough captured on film to stir our outrage regularly. If they're cut in half again there will still be enough. And if they're cut in half again we'll still be seeing them.
Progress on this issue (as with pretty much every social ill) will be measured over years or decades and in statistical numbers. That sounds cold-blooded and clinical, but it's the truth.
Because the acceptable number of unforced killings by cop/excessive force resulting in grave injury or death is zero.
Cut it in half as many times as you need until you get to 0. Good luck.
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That's not only unconstitutional but a civil rights violation. Ah, the GOP. Defenders of the constitution and rule of law party!
To the video from Kenosha, that was the perfect scenario for a use of non-lethal force (taser). Officer had plenty of back-up and had space to take action. Complete training failure. Qualified immunity will prevent this guy from being prosecuted and be left to kill again.
Qualified immunity applies to civil litigation, not criminal prosecution.
