Not a big surprise. Sounds like Preds are front runners for Duchene
Adam Vingan @AdamVingan
My colleague @PierreVLeBrun mentioned on @1025TheGame that Matt Duchene is scheduled to visit Nashville this week during the free-agent interview period.
On the 31 Thoughts podcast, Chris Johnston said "100%" Duchene signs in Nashville. Didn't even want to give him self a 1% out, he was that confident.
If they can sign Duchene to a $9M cap hit or less it would change my perception of the Subban trade.
I think they definitely shop Turris heavily if they do sign Duchene considering the cap hit he will command. If Duchene signs for 9 that would be $23M in their top 3 centers.
I still think that Neal for Turris could be a thing that happens if Duchene signs there.
If they can sign Duchene to a $9M cap hit or less it would change my perception of the Subban trade.
I think they definitely shop Turris heavily if they do sign Duchene considering the cap hit he will command. If Duchene signs for 9 that would be $23M in their top 3 centers.
I read an article the other day saying that $9M for Duchene is a huge mistake. Even in year 1, let alone year 5 or 6. Duchesne’s numbers don’t put him in that stratosphere, even as a UFA. I’ll see if I can find it.
I read an article the other day saying that $9M for Duchene is a huge mistake. Even in year 1, let alone year 5 or 6. Duchesne’s numbers don’t put him in that stratosphere, even as a UFA. I’ll see if I can find it.
Considering what Hayes, a ~45-50 point player, just got, $9M for Ducehene, a ~60 point player, isn't out of line this year.
Both salaries are insane though, and almost definitely impossible to live up to.
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Do they have any of their own players to re-sign? If not, that is a lot of room although I wouldn't expect Panthers to be a cap team either.
Notable RFAs:
Denis Malgin
MacKenzie Weegar
Ian McCoshen
All are lower end of the roster players, although Malgin might make around $2-3 million or so coming off his ELC. Not a significant raise for any of them.
I think they'll be a cap team so long as they're winning. Viola doesn't have a problem spending on a winning product, but yeah, they'll probably shoot for about $5 million under the cap unless they think they have a shot at the cup.
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Eric Duhatschek was just on Sportsnet 960 and said there's going to be some tremendous bargains come August. Some teams will have run out of cap space by then.
I can see Treliving biding his time on a few depth signings.
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This is a contract that deeply concerns me. On a six-year deal, Evolving Hockey pegs Duchene to be worth $6.8-million per season, while my model thinks he’s worth $6.7 million. Rumors are swirling that Duchene will command significantly more than that on the open market: north of $9-million per season. It’ll be an extremely tough ask for him to live up to that.
Duchene looks like a tweener top six center – one that would be elite on a second line but arguably outmatched on a top line. He projects to be a first line center over the next two seasons, but not an above average one, ranking 28th in the league per his GSVA (and not that much higher than Kevin Hayes either). Forget $9-million per season over seven years – Duchene likely isn’t worth that salary right now. With Duchene being 28 years old, things only get worse from there and over the majority of a lengthy contract would likely only provide second line value. His rumored ask would be an overpayment.
Duchene has always been held in high regard as one of the league’s better players, but his results have lagged behind his reputation. Last year was a high mark for his production, but it came off a bloated 18 percent shooting percentage that Duchene is unlikely to repeat. He’s blazingly fast and a gifted puck-handler, putting up decent point totals as a result, but he struggles to drive play like you’d expect from a top-flight center (especially one who is excellent at entering the zone with control) due to his defensive struggles. Duchene has only had one season in his career where his team has outshot the other with him on the ice.
Part of that is the fact that Duchene has never really had a strong support system. That’s why his “difficulty” rating is so high: it’s hard to do well when you play for a bottom five teams year-after-year and to his credit, he’s always been positive relative to his team, save for his brief stint in Columbus. It’s possible his raw talent will shine much brighter on a competitive team and that gives reason for optimism in signing him. It’s also possible that slotting him as the top option on those teams was part of the problem.
A team offering him $9 million or more likely expects him to be The Guy, but it’s unlikely he can be that. He’s much better suited as a complementary piece, though it looks increasingly unlikely his new deal will be commensurate of that.
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Eric Duhatschek was just on Sportsnet 960 and said there's going to be some tremendous bargains come August. Some teams will have run out of cap space by then.
I can see Treliving biding his time on a few depth signings.
Hopefully this means Hathaway is brought back on a similar contract then. He's a great 4th liner at sub-million. Prior to the cap news he was probably looking at a decent contract from someone.
Larry Brooks @NYP_Brooksie
Simmonds seeking long-term deal that he will likely get, so that eliminates Rangers. Zuccarello apparently will be able to command a 5-year deal, so there will be no reunion. NYR would ideally like to keep UFA commitments to two years, if not one.
Whoever gives Simmonds that contract will receive the "Worst Yearly UFA Signing" trophy from Calgary.
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Simmonds seeking long-term deal that he will likely get, so that eliminates Rangers. Zuccarello apparently will be able to command a 5-year deal, so there will be no reunion. NYR would ideally like to keep UFA commitments to two years, if not one.
Who on God’s green earth is offering Simmonds a multi-year deal?
If there’s ever a case for July 1st buyer’s remorse, it’s gonna be whoever signs this guy.
Rick Carpiniello @RickCarpiniello
Hearing Rangers have a meeting scheduled with Panarin this week (#NYR president John Davidson, who knows him well from Columbus will be in on it) but it remains possible, if not probable, Panarin and Bobrovsky sign with FLA.
Eric Duhatschek was just on Sportsnet 960 and said there's going to be some tremendous bargains come August. Some teams will have run out of cap space by then.
I can see Treliving biding his time on a few depth signings.
With the salary cap maximum lower than expected, there simply isn’t enough money to go around for all of the players who are expecting the kinds of raises being talked about.
It very clearly going to be a good strategy to wait until other teams have no more space, and then sign depth at pennies on the dollar.
With the salary cap maximum lower than expected, there simply isn’t enough money to go around for all of the players who are expecting the kinds of raises being talked about.
It very clearly going to be a good strategy to wait until other teams have no more space, and then sign depth at pennies on the dollar.
Exactly. If he's looking for a seventh defensemen or a fourth liner, wait until late August.
Larry Brooks @NYP_Brooksie
Simmonds seeking long-term deal that he will likely get, so that eliminates Rangers. Zuccarello apparently will be able to command a 5-year deal, so there will be no reunion. NYR would ideally like to keep UFA commitments to two years, if not one.
Exactly. If he's looking for a seventh defensemen or a fourth liner, wait until late August.
With the contracts being signed for players in the last couple weeks, I’m not sure if the “scraps” will even be that bad. Middle level players that should have been expected to sign for 4-5 million per, might have no market bidding for their services.
Also, with some teams needed to shed salary, you might be able to take advantage of one of them.
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