Friedman: Gaudreau not expected to comment on contract status

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

Marner got one that starts with a 1 and he is not the best player on his team. Same for Tavares.

Let's copy Toronto.

[Robbob]

At the end of the day the loss of Gaudreau and Tkachuk (not saying it will/would happen) would probably initiate a rebuild in 2023 (the Bedard draft for those that are wondering)

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

New Jersey has to be considered a team that will go heavy after Johnny if he gets to the open market. They have a ton of cap space and a bunch of young up and coming players so they can pay big money and offer a market much closer to home.

Agreed that the Devils will be a player if Gaudreau becomes available. They’re ramping up out of their rebuild and have lots of cap space. And I expect they would be on any short list of trade destinations Gaudreau provides.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

I do hope you are right. But if the Olympic break comes and we are 2-3 points in/out of the playoffs (most likely scenario IMO), are we really trading him? I find that hard to picture...

Or solidly in a playoff spot for that matter. He doesn't get traded then either.

Unless it's a trade for futures and use those futures get used in a deadline deal.

Gaudreau walking for nothing is certainly a possibility. The Islanders survived something similar.

[cowtown75]

Originally Posted by chedder

True, he will be signed or traded. The trade return will enrage many fans. The time to get anything substantial for Johnny has passed.

I think it would depend on his production this year. If he is at a point per game pace, I think his trade value will be just fine. He is a very talented player in this league and I think at times gets under valued.

[chedder]

Originally Posted by cowtown75

I think it would depend on his production this year. If he is at a point per game pace, I think his trade value will be just fine. He is a very talented player in this league and I think at times gets under valued.

Not knocking the player. Just that trading at the deadline or even winter is strictly a rental scenario. A pick at most.

[Knightslayer]

Originally Posted by chedder

Not knocking the player. Just that trading at the deadline or even winter is strictly a rental scenario. A pick at most.

History says this isn't true. Plenty of rentals have gotten a Kings ransome.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Sid hasn't slowed much, it's true. But sometimes that wall hits pretty hard. I'd guess, though, he has 3-4 more solid years in him.

Trading for a 2C, though - like who? And are they prepared to mortgage that much? They aren't tremendously solid in net or on D after Letang. I think they will be a good team as usual, but not a great team. I was not surprised at all they got bounced by the Isles.

Who specifically, I’m not sure.

But a top-6 centre for a 1st, 2nd and 3rd is reasonable, given what Kotkaniemi and Dvorak have moved for.

[chedder]

Originally Posted by Knightslayer

History says this isn't true. Plenty of rentals have gotten a Kings ransome.

Educate me then, if you will. I wouldn't call a late first round pick a king's ransom. That's all I believe we'd end up getting.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Knightslayer

History says this isn't true. Plenty of rentals have gotten a Kings ransome.

Late pick and decent prospect is all I would expect unless the Flames eat a bad contract

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Who specifically, I’m not sure.

But a top-6 centre for a 1st, 2nd and 3rd is reasonable, given what Kotkaniemi and Dvorak have moved for.

Jesper isn’t really a good example - revenge offer sheet. Dvorak was an emergency replacement.

But if that’s your 2C, sure. I just don’t think that makes for a cup contending team, even with Sid. And I don’t think they’d pay that price unless they think it moves the needle.

[TheScorpion]

Nm

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Jesper isn’t really a good example - revenge offer sheet. Dvorak was an emergency replacement.

But if that’s your 2C, sure. I just don’t think that makes for a cup contending team, even with Sid. And I don’t think they’d pay that price unless they think it moves the needle.

Maybe it’s as simple as getting Malkin back at a lesser number - 3x$6m or something.

At $9.5M, he’s an issue.

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by Robbob

At the end of the day the loss of Gaudreau and Tkachuk (not saying it will/would happen) would probably initiate a rebuild in 2023 (the Bedard draft for those that are wondering)

I actually think the odds of this are quite high, and it's probably for the best for everyone. The only way I see the Flames keeping Gaudreau is if they offer a contract he can't refuse. If Johnny leaves, why would Tkachuk want to stay? Unless the Flames have some miracle season, I just don't see anything enticing for these guys to want to stay. And I think it's best for both parties. The Flames desperately need a rebuild, and these guys get to go chase whatever is important to them. It's a win/win in a way other than the fact that you probably lose them for pennies on the dollar.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Hackey

I actually think the odds of this are quite high, and it's probably for the best for everyone. The only way I see the Flames keeping Gaudreau is if they offer a contract he can't refuse. If Johnny leaves, why would Tkachuk want to stay? Unless the Flames have some miracle season, I just don't see anything enticing for these guys to want to stay. And I think it's best for both parties. The Flames desperately need a rebuild, and these guys get to go chase whatever is important to them. It's a win/win in a way other than the fact that you probably lose them for pennies on the dollar.

The only person this is best for is you and a few other posters who are not happy unless everything goes horribly wrong for this team and it turns into a tire fire.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by chedder

Not knocking the player. Just that trading at the deadline or even winter is strictly a rental scenario. A pick at most.

Nick Foligno got a 1st

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

The only person this is best for is you and a few other posters who are not happy unless everything goes horribly wrong for this team and it turns into a tire fire.

I feel Gaudreau has way more reasons to leave than stay. Sorry if that upsets you. If Gaudreau leaves this version of the Flames is probably finished.

[the_only_turek_fan]

This thread has become insufferable.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Nick Foligno got a 1st

I’m not counting on Dubas to do the deal though.

[heep223]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

This thread has become insufferable.