2015/2016 Trade Speculation and Rumors v2

[jg13]

Wow we might actually be able to get rid of Wideman at the deadline the way things are going

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by iLoveLamp

Gilbert out for the year. Russell's value goes up

Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC 3m3 minutes ago
MON announces Tom Gilbert out for the year. Knee surgery.

Tom Gilbert has successfully ruined another team. His job was done.

[MarkGio]

If Russell has value, then surely Wideman @50% retained has value

[mkd_087]

It's great to be on the positive end of trades these days. Patience is slowly paying off for this team. Here's hoping for a productive (but not rushed) trade deadline/off season.

Be interesting to see what happens if Backs and Russel can be moved. Wideman would be a huge plus...but with the suspension and lack luster season prior I don't see him going anywhere...unless the price is low...which may not matter.

[GKDarts]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Good read from Haynes (as always) on the Flames search for goaltending.
http://www.flamesfrom80feet.ca/2016/...an-part-2.html …

On this list I'd really be happy with 1 of Hutchinson, Hellberg, Raanta, Andersen, Forsberg. And I think we get one of them. Jack Campbell's finding his groove again and might be a player to take a flyer on as well.

Good read indeed...With all the talk of paying up for a goalie, I had a look at the last 15 years at what could be had at a "reasonable" price in the goalie market. I kept it to goalies that played a minimum of 25 games in the year and were top 10 in save percentage in the league. In order to gauge the "flash in the pan factor" I then looked at how they performed with their team in the years that followed. I deemed an above average year to be a save percentage >.912 and a minimum of 25 games played. I limited the list to guys that were performing with teams other than those they had originally broken into the league with. Hardly scientific, but a good indicator that you can find long term quality every year, without paying much for it. Interesting too that in terms of "above average years" Kipper was only 5 for 9.

· 2000/01 Manny Fernandez SV .920 5/6 seasons above average: 2000-Jun-12 Traded from Dallas Stars with Brad Lukowich to Minnesota Wild for round 3 pick in the 2000 draft (Joel Lundqvist) and round 4 pick in the 2002 draft
· 2001/02 Sean Burke SV.920, 4/5 seasons above average: 1999-Nov-18 Traded from Florida Panthers with round 5 pick in the 2000 draft (Nate Kiser) to Phoenix Coyotes for Mikhail Shtalenkov and round 4 pick in the 2000 draft (Chris Eade)
· 2001/02 JS Giguere SV.920, 7/9 seasons above average: 2000-Jun-09 Traded from Calgary Flames to Anaheim Mighty Ducks for round 2 pick in the 2000 draft (Matt Pettinger)
· 2002- 2004 D. Roloson SV .927/.933 3/4 seasons above average: 2000-Jun-23 Claimed in expansion draft by Columbus Blue Jackets from Buffalo Sabres
· 2003/04 M. Kiprusoff SV.933 5/9 seasons above average: 2003-Nov-16 Traded from San Jose Sharks to Calgary Flames for conditional pick in the 2005 draft
· 2005/06 Cristobal Huet SV .929 3/3 seasons above average: 2004-Jun-26 Traded from Los Angeles Kings with Radek Bonk to Montreal Canadiens for Mathieu Garon and round 3 pick in the 2004 draft (Paul Baier)
· 2005/06 Tim Thomas SV .917 6/7 seasons above average. 2002-Aug-08 Signed by Boston Bruins as free agent
· 2007/08 Ilya Bryzgalov SV .920 3/4 seasons above average. 2007-Nov-17 Claimed off waivers by Phoenix Coyotes from Anaheim Ducks
· 2008/09 Craig Anderson SV. 924 6/7 seasons above average therafter with Panthers/Avs/Sens. the Blackhawks traded Anderson to the Florida Panthers for the Panthers sixth round draft pick in the 2008 NHL Entry Draft.
· 2009/10 Tuukka Rask SV .931 7/7 seasons above average. 2006-Jun-24 Rights traded from Toronto Maple Leafs to Boston Bruins for Andrew Raycroft
· 2010/2011 Antti Niemi SV .920 5/5 seasons above average. On 2 September 2010, Niemi officially signed a one-year, $2 million FA contract with the San Jose Sharks after Chicago walked away from his arbitration award
· 2011/12 Brian Elliot SV .940 4/4 seasons above average. Elliott signed a one-year contract worth $600,000 with the St. Louis Blues on July 1, 2011
· 2011/12 Kari Lehtonen SV .922 4/6 seasons above average. 2010-Feb-09 Traded from Atlanta Thrashers to Dallas Stars for Ivan Vishnevskiy and round 4 pick in the 2010 draft (Ivan Telegin)
· 2012/13 Sergei Bobrovsky SV .932 4/4 seasons above average. 2012-Jun-22 Traded from Philadelphia Flyers to Columbus Blue Jackets for round 2 pick in the 2012 draft (Anthony Stolarz), round 4 pick in the 2012 draft (Taylor Leier) and round 4 pick in the 2013 draft (Justin Auger)
· 2013/14 Ben Bishop SV .924 3/3 seasons above average. 2013-Apr-03 Traded from Ottawa Senators to Tampa Bay Lightning for Cory Conacher and round 4 pick in the 2013 draft (Tobias Lindberg)
· 2014/15 Devan Dubnyk SV .924 2/2 seasons above average. 2015-Jan-14 Traded from Arizona Coyotes to Minnesota Wild for round 3 pick in the 2015 draft (Brendan Warren)

[Fischy13]

Creasy the rumour guy stating a backlund for beaulieau trade. Millions ask how he sees beaulieau is a fit in Calgary. Maybe a Russell replacement?

[Ashasx]

The Creasy was proven to be some 14 year old kid 3 or so years ago. Fake rumour.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Good read from Haynes (as always) on the Flames search for goaltending.
http://www.flamesfrom80feet.ca/2016/...an-part-2.html …

On this list I'd really be happy with 1 of Hutchinson, Hellberg, Raanta, Andersen, Forsberg. And I think we get one of them. Jack Campbell's finding his groove again and might be a player to take a flyer on as well.

Hmm, I hadn't thought of acquiring Darcy Kuemper. His stats this year (.920 SV% / .923 AdjSV%) are pretty good. At 25 years old and 6'5" he might be worth taking a shot on.

[Benched]

Minny actually seems to play a little better in front of krumpcake. May be backup syndrome.

Reminds me of talbot behind Lundqvist. But I still think talbot is good so maybe krump could be as well.

[dammage79]

Fun part of this time of year? All the worse then Eklund types come out to play.

NHLSourcessay thinks Vancouver is going after Ladd.

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Fun part of this time of year? All the worse then Eklund types come out to play.

NHLSourcessay thinks Vancouver is going after Ladd.

Rental player to a tanking team... when they could wait till summer and not give up pieces.

[sureLoss]

Chris Nichols @NicholsOnHockey
Dreger: "Fairly strong market" for Weise. Potential draft pick return? "Third round seems lofty to me."

Chris Nichols @NicholsOnHockey
Dreger: Might be a willingness to give up that third round pick, or a prospect, or something along those lines for Weise. #Habs

Chris Nichols @NicholsOnHockey
Dreger: I look at #FlaPanthers, there'll be interest. "Weise would be on their list. Andrew Ladd would be on their list." #Habs #NHLJets

[Poe969]

Weise is intriguing to me, in the off season. He does seem to be the kind of player that this team is missing but he'd only be a third line guy and this team seems to only have third line guys right now.

I wonder what he'd get contract Weise...I mean wise this summer.

[Caged Great]

I could see Weise fetching a 2nd from some team. He seems the type that would garner an "overpayment" from some team.

[saillias]

Originally Posted by Poe969

Weise is intriguing to me, in the off season. He does seem to be the kind of player that this team is missing but he'd only be a third line guy and this team seems to only have third line guys right now.

I wonder what he'd get contract Weise...I mean wise this summer.

He's be a younger version of David Jones. I think he'd get a Bouma-like deal

[Red Menace]

Weise sounds like the classic Bryan Bickell - Lance Bouma type guy who has one strong season, and gets a big contract that he doesn't come close to living up to.
I'd stay away.

[Erick Estrada]

Weise would be a good signing for a team looking to stay above the salary cap floor but not worth the money for a team like the Flames who already have too much money tied up into bottom pairing defensemen and bottom six forwards.

[Poe969]

Depending on the money he'll be asking for I guess. If he wants too much of a raise over his current contract, then I hope a team in the west over pays for him. I know I'd prefer him on our third line over Jooris but it would have to be at roughly the same contact he has now and I doubt he'd do that.

[Strange Brew]

Hard to imagine Backlund being traded after the Granlund deal. Especially because I didn't get the feeling the Flames were really targeting Shinkaruk but more that they got value for a guy they thought was surplus. Trading two centers in a week would be odd.

Wonder if Russell's injury is really quite minor and he is being held out to preserve his trade value.

I don't think Wideman is going anywhere. I ma not sure Flames are really willing to retain salary and I don't even know if that gets it done. Still think he has more trade value next year and team should be patient.

[Caged Great]

I still think Backlund is going to be dealt. If you're looking at peak value for a player, he is at his. Bennett is going to be the 2nd line C from now on, relegating Backlund to the third line. In the coming years, he is going to be less and less valuable as a trade piece. Now you could probably either get a really good prospect (better than Shinkaruk) or include him in a larger deal for something else important. With having Monahan, Bennett, Stajan, Jankowski, Shore, Colborne, Bouma, Jooris, and Arnold all being able to play center and all of those guys being either NHL ready or close in Janko/Arnold's case, making Backlund expendable could be an important move for the team.