[News] Brodie skates on his own. Flames optimistic he will re-join team in near future.

[robertsfanatic]

great news for him and his family and he is definitely missed on the ice.

[1Nite]

Even if he still a way off from playing it is probably up lifting and good for him and his team mates for him to be with them.
As for receiving care, I had a episode on August 23, was taken to a hospital, did some blood work and had a CT scan, was released about six hours later, and the doctor, had put in a request for a appointment with Urgent Neurology clinic, that ended up being just under two weeks, the doctor and nurse asked a lot of questions about what happened and my previous medical history, then did some basic reflex type tests, and determined that I had a seizure. I was booked for a EEG, which was about a months wait, and a MRI, which I will be going to tomorrow, almost exactly three months after, a coworker that had something similar happen to him about a week after me is following a similar timeline to. Has it been said that Brodie has fully passed all tests or are they still waiting for full clearance?

[redforever]

Originally Posted by curves2000

I think I should have clarified in my post that I was referring to non life threatening and urgent care cases.

In Brodie's case he collapsed, was attended to at the Dome and than was transported to hospital alert. He was released after a few hours after it was deemed that this wasn't a life threatening case.

Where the divergence happens was after the fact where he had a battery of testing and saw a variety of specialists in a very very short order for observation.

The waiting time to see a cardiologist, an electrical specialist or other specialists is generally weeks and months if not more. How many people do you know that have ever said they got their issues dealt with in 3-4 days?

This isn't unique to TJ Brodie. It is literally an absolute given that a certain segment of the Canadian population is given 100% priority.

Justin Trudeau, Jason Kenny, members of Cabinet and elite members of the military aren't waiting around weeks & months for a consultation, testing to be ordered, a follow up appointment and than the treatment or surgery to start.

As a hockey related example, say Mike Babcock needed elective eye surgery, I doubt he is waiting the approx 2-3 months for a consult before decision is made on surgery. A quick look at the waiting times for Ontario show this but as I noted above, it wouldn't happen for a specific group of people.

https://www.hqontario.ca/System-Perf...st-Appointment

When you access the health care system on an emergency basis, you are usually classified as priority 1 for subsequent tests.

[curves2000]

I am man enough to admit perhaps when I may be in the wrong and in this case, I will admit that I probably have it wrong with regards to Brodie's case. It was a medical ermgency at the start, no question about. He seem's to be back to 100% which is great.

I personally do think he was given preferential treatment, which is TOTALLY fine! I do think its naive to think that Murray Edwards, Gio and a homeless guy get the same subsequent level of attention and wait times for health care.

I just don't understand how some people here are actually arguing that almost everyone who is being seen in emergency for a variety of problems get's access to a host of specialists within days. Not 1 specialist, multiple. Perhaps I am living under a rock here.

A quick scan of a couple of the Calgary Flames surgeon's online is showing wait time knee surgery at around 33 & 41 weeks for 90% of cases. Can anybody who's stating their case point to a time when surgery for a Flame was delayed by a couple of months waiting for OR time or to see a specialist?

I've personally had a couple of appointments cancelled from Dr. Ian Auld as he was busy attending to a Flames player unexpectedly the day of our appointment. On the flip side due to a connection I had years ago I was able to see a top Dr for hernia surgery in 2 days.

Let's not pretend here that a certain segment of the population isn't being given preferential treatment and access to services. We already know that if your not naive as it's clear as day if your willing to look.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by curves2000

I am man enough to admit perhaps when I may be in the wrong and in this case, I will admit that I probably have it wrong with regards to Brodie's case. It was a medical ermgency at the start, no question about. He seem's to be back to 100% which is great.

I personally do think he was given preferential treatment, which is TOTALLY fine! I do think its naive to think that Murray Edwards, Gio and a homeless guy get the same subsequent level of attention and wait times for health care.

I just don't understand how some people here are actually arguing that almost everyone who is being seen in emergency for a variety of problems get's access to a host of specialists within days. Not 1 specialist, multiple. Perhaps I am living under a rock here.

A quick scan of a couple of the Calgary Flames surgeon's online is showing wait time knee surgery at around 33 & 41 weeks for 90% of cases. Can anybody who's stating their case point to a time when surgery for a Flame was delayed by a couple of months waiting for OR time or to see a specialist?

I've personally had a couple of appointments cancelled from Dr. Ian Auld as he was busy attending to a Flames player unexpectedly the day of our appointment. On the flip side due to a connection I had years ago I was able to see a top Dr for hernia surgery in 2 days.

Let's not pretend here that a certain segment of the population isn't being given preferential treatment and access to services. We already know that if your not naive as it's clear as day if your willing to look.

You seem to be lumping together many different scenarios, first of all.

Nobody is arguing that everybody gets equal treatment across all situations. Heck, even in emergency rooms, that’s what triage is for.

Diagnosis and treatment are different, as well

And yes, people whose livelihood depends on elective non life threatening surgeries probably have a way to get them done

But that’s different than the diagnostic phase related to a collapse

I will leave it there.

[Doctorfever]

Nm

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

[REMOVED]

Jesus.

That’s an awful post.

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Jesus.

That’s an awful post.

Why?

[Mass_nerder]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

Why?

Because you're implying that this incident was a result of some sort of substance abuse, while acknowledging that you don't have a credible source.
Way too casually throwing out baseless speculation about a pretty serious issue.

[FanIn80]

I don’t know which is worse. The original post or the “why?” that followed.

[Doctorfever]

Ok I get it. I guess because my source doesn’t have direct inside information maybe I shouldn’t have posted. Maybe many beers also clouded my thoughts last night.

[IamNotKenKing]

Originally Posted by shogged

purely speculation on your part. seizures and collapsing without warning are 100% a medical emergency and you're comparing it to things like a knee replacement or non emergency eye surgery, which is where the actual wait times exist. I would bet the farm that if you went through the same situation, you'd receive the same level of care.

As someone with a very close family member who has seizures and heart issues, this is 100% correct. Every time the investigation has been and is complete, thorough and urgently performed, with a full battery of tests.

[Rando]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

Ok I get it. I guess because my source doesn’t have direct inside information maybe I shouldn’t have posted. Maybe many beers also clouded my thoughts last night.

Perhaps it's just me but I'd love if some of gossipers would just shut up about it. I don't care what the players do in their personal lives. If they have a problem, I hope they seek help, but it's nothing that should be discussed by fans on an open forum.

Not even mentioning that bringing it up in this thread shows a real lack of tact.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

Ok I get it. I guess because my source doesn’t have direct inside information maybe I shouldn’t have posted. Maybe many beers also clouded my thoughts last night.

Then edit it you donkey.

[MissTeeks]

Brodie is a game time decision for tomorrow.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/...n-vs-penguins/

https://twitter.com/user/status/1198646950633099264

[DJones]

Well this thread just went full #### show in a hurry. Rumors and political nonsense haha.

[DJones]

Glad to have Brodie back, never understood the hate he gets on this board.

Centerpiece of our defense that lets Gio do what he does best. Him and Rasmus or Hamonic are not a good pairing.

[GioforPM]

I can say this. I have heard certain rumours about some players from sources that are as good as I can think of outside an actual member of the team or staff. And Brodie’s name has never come up.

[Since1984]

Originally Posted by curves2000

I am happy to hear that he is doing well, I know it was a scary situation for all involved and I think he will be back soon although I don't think he plays right away, maybe more of a moral boost for him.

It really is interesting to see the stark contrast between the medical access and access to specialists & treatment between an ordinary Joe and a professional athlete in Canada.

I am not advocating having professional athletes wait and wait and wait for surgery, treatment or even have access to other specialists. It's just such a stark contrast.

A regular Joe probably isn't getting access to several different specialists ranging from neurological to cardiologists to even an Internal Medicine Dr and perhaps an EP Dr which is a specialist for the electrical components and function of your heart. All of this within a handful of days so that he can get back on the ice training and than playing.

With waiting lists for these professionals going weeks and months or even longer, it's interesting. Somebody most likely was getting bumped or rescheduled.

I have had enough experience with Dr. Ian Auld, the Flames Head Dr and the Dr who was in the press conference with Tre. He's an excellent Dr but there was a couple of issues with the office staff with return calls, faxes for MRI's etc that just wouldn't be happening to Gio or Johnny.

In my case it wasn't anything other than the constant battle with the health care system that almost everybody experiences.

On the flip side with a couple of other connections I had 15+ years ago for a hernia operation, was bumped up the line due to a relative the surgeon was friends with.

We pretend that we don't have a 2 tiered health system in Canada but that really isn't the case. A lot of the political parties and stakeholders claim everything is going great but a lot of patients feel different.

Just a thought

If anyone believes were don't have a two tiered health system they are out to lunch. If you can afford to pay for treatment asap you get it...I don't see the issue.

We still have the universal health care system and a premium health care system that work independently. Id prefer this over what the US has every day.

Needed an MRI for my knee after a sports injury. I could wait months with the public health care system or 10 days with private. The private was covered under my health care spending account. Still really like what we have here compared to other countries.

I'm honestly astonished that this is still a question. Unless of course it's the norm in Alberta but not elsewhere.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Since1984

If anyone believes were don't have a two tiered health system they are out to lunch. If you can afford to pay for treatment asap you get it...I don't see the issue.

We still have the universal health care system and a premium health care system that work independently. Id prefer this over what the US has every day.

Needed an MRI for my knee after a sports injury. I could wait months with the public health care system or 10 days with private. The private was covered under my health care spending account. Still really like what we have here compared to other countries.

I'm honestly astonished that this is still a question. Unless of course it's the norm in Alberta but not elsewhere.

MRI is, of course, different than an emergency situation with possible heart or neurological implications.