[News] New Arena - Plan B - Victoria Park

[Locke]

Originally Posted by FlameZilla

I don't really get what's wrong with the dome. I mean, it's a year younger than me and as far as I know no one is trying to get rid of me.

How is a new arena going to help with revenue? Bigger capacity? Fancier fittings which make people happy to pay out more for season tickets & overpriced concessions? I just don't see it. Or is it a big earner because of the construction contracts they get to hand out to companies in the position to rake in money building the thing?

Excellent. So far all is going according to plan.

[EVERLAST]

Ken King is like Jack Nicholson in the shining

"HONEY, I'm home.....I'm not going to hurt you , noooo, I'm not going to hurt you , I'm gonna bash

Or like living with a werewolf , which version are you going to get when the moon is full......wow Kenny.

[InglewoodFan]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

King has released a statement:

https://www.nhl.com/flames/news/mess...ns/c-288359250

Looks like they emailed this statement out to STH too, I just got a copy with the salutation:

Dear 264xxx, (my account number)

Thanks Ken, good to know we are all just numbers to you.

Not really put out by this, just shaking my head at how CSEC can't seem to do anything right on public relations it seems.

[Locke]

Seriously....I love the guy as an ambassador, I've met him a few times and he is just the nicest most honest and stand-up guy, but this whole project just might be asking to much of Ken King.

I might have to step back and re-evaluate things but up to this point this seems like a massively bungled mess on the part of the Flames and that has to land somewhere.

I'm really disappointed. This has not been handled with the class and professionalism typically shown of the Flames Organization. What the hell is going on?

That was pure damage control.

[JiriHrdina]

I wish both sides would shut up until they had something meaningful to share.

[Locke]

And I made to/too transgression!! Goddammit Fuzz!!!!!

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

I wish both sides would shut up until they had something meaningful to share.

My thoughts exactly. The media posturing from both Calgary and the Flames is getting very old very fast

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

That was a bungling, horribly crafted letter. Very difficult to read, and not of the quality befitting a professional organization like the Flames.

[transplant99]

nm...simply not worth it.

[Travis Munroe]

Originally Posted by MarkGio

Good for the local businesses, sure, I cannot refute that. But for the city? Also, keep in mind the city incurs costs too. Drunken vandals breaking bus stops. High traffic roads need to be swept and repaved. Maintenance of side walks & pedestrian crossings. Extra policing during these events. Maintenance and costs of the extra buses and train transit to support the flood of users during these events.

So again, if the city incurs costs, and the city directly yields little to no revenue from the actual influx of people spending money at pubs and games, then where's the economic benefit?

This has to be the post where you finally realized you were wrong in your comment that there is NO economic benefit to Calgary having a new arena and NHL franchise. Using vandalism of bus stops and maintenance of side walks as the argument of what will offset any gain? really?

On the bright side at least you went from NO benefit to now admitting there is some but quickly finding something to offset it.

[MarkGio]

Originally Posted by Realtor 1

This has to be the post where you finally realized you were wrong in your comment that there is NO economic benefit to Calgary having a new arena and NHL franchise. Using vandalism of bus stops and maintenance of side walks as the argument of what will offset any gain? really?

On the bright side at least you went from NO benefit to now admitting there is some but quickly finding something to offset it.

Lol. Yeah I guess when you lack intelligence and/or reading comprehension you could draw that conclusion. Benefits to local businesses = benefits to the city??

[MarkGio]

I also liked how you ignored my plea to prove me otherwise. Pretty convenient no?

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Roughneck

The fact we keep talking about King as the bad guy and not Edwards and co. means he is doing his job well, I'd say. I don't like it or him, but he's the messenger people are shooting at, which makes the owners look good.

King is the mouth of CSEC, so all images of him should be replaced with:

Remember what happened to that guy? Aragorn cut his head off for spouting stupid ####

[Travis Munroe]

Originally Posted by MarkGio

Lol. Yeah I guess when you lack intelligence and/or reading comprehension you could draw that conclusion. Benefits to local businesses = benefits to the city??

Originally Posted by MarkGio

I also liked how you ignored my plea to prove me otherwise. Pretty convenient no?

I am preparing 2 different offers for clientele right now after showing properties all morning and afternoon.

With my lack of intelligence and reading comprehension, it takes a bit longer to get things done so I hope you can understand.

Posting on CP and explaining to a class act like yourself who calls someone on their reading comprehension and intelligence is not at the top of my list, especially when it is as ridiculous as explaining how wrong they are to say that Calgary has NO financial benefit to having the flames.

[calgaryblood]

There is definitely benefit to the economy and community around the new rink in Calgary but let's not forget about the businesses around the saddledome right now. They're going to feel the pinch when the Flames do leave the dome.

[IamNotKenKing]

Originally Posted by MarkGio

Lol. Yeah I guess when you lack intelligence and/or reading comprehension you could draw that conclusion. Benefits to local businesses = benefits to the city??

Don't be insulting. It doesn't benefit the discussion.

The difference in the positions is small "c" city vs. big "C" City.

You are only looking at direct benefits to the Municipality of the City of Calgary, being a legal entity unto itself, others are looking at benefits to Calgarians and their businesses, which are the city.

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by MarkGio

Lol. Yeah I guess when you lack intelligence and/or reading comprehension you could draw that conclusion. Benefits to local businesses = benefits to the city??

That's uncalled for and makes you look childish.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by MarkGio

Lol. Yeah I guess when you lack intelligence and/or reading comprehension you could draw that conclusion. Benefits to local businesses = benefits to the city??

lol

[getbak]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

There is definitely benefit to the economy and community around the new rink in Calgary but let's not forget about the businesses around the saddledome right now. They're going to feel the pinch when the Flames do leave the dome.

Unless they stay in the Victoria Park area (which is most-likely what will happen).

Of course, if they do create a Victoria Park "Entertainment District" around the new building, it will likely have some negative impact on the businesses along 17th who benefit from the Red Mile.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

I wish both sides would shut up until they had something meaningful to share.

Since this is all going to come down to the political will to give public money to CSEC, a public relations battle is part of the process. That's why King went on SN960 last week to encourage Flames fans to be more vocal about the need for an arena.