High-Profile Sexual Abuse Epidemic

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

It's Bill Clinton, isn't it?

Bill Clinton was named already in the #MeToo movement. Just seems that Juanita Broaddrick repeatedly gets ignored or discredited for really no reason. She's as every bit as credible as everyone else. Especially when she had been secretly recorded multiple times discussing the incident while refusing to go public and knew intimate knowledge on Bill like the fact he believed himself to be sterile due to mumps (Flowers confirmed this). Broaddrick didn't want the limelight, she was afraid of the consequences and personal attacks. Her only "mistake" was not taking on the President of the ####ing United States in a very public court battle...

Given how often people discredit rape victims today, can't say I blame her.

[Jiri Hrdina]

I read the Nick Carter stuff yesterday - or had that already come out?

[troutman]

At the Drive-In’s Cedric Bixler-Zavala speaks out against Danny Masterson for allegedly raping his wife

https://consequenceofsound.net/2017/...p=facebook-ads

Bixler-Zavala reiterated allegations that the Church of Scientology, of which Masteron is and Carnell Bixler used to be a part of, has been using intimidation and coercion tactics to bury the investigation. “Our phones and computers have been tapped and the Church has been outsourcing private investigators and various thugs to follow and try and intimidate my family under the policy known as fair game,” Bixler-Zavala alleged. “If anything happens to my wife while I’m gone on tour then you’ll know why.”

The singer also claimed that “Twitter, TMZ, LAPD are all bought and paid for,” implying the Church of Scientology has used influence in those sources to silence Carnell Bixler and the three other victims.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Northendzone

I am keith olbermann - look at me I am doing stuff over here

Yeah, Olbermann can be entertaining but his credibility is approaching zilch at this point.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Meanwhile in Russia:

The notion that there's something shamefully wrong, misogynistic or potentially criminal about a man exerting his wealth or power over women has struck many Russians as a big "so what."

Take actress Lyubov Tolkalina, a 39-year-old veteran of stage and screen who spoke to the online news site Medusa.

"If you get the role, what does it matter what you had to do to get it?" she's quoted as saying.

"How can you actually blame a man for sexual harassment?" she continued.

"Isn't that why he was created in the first place? If he has power that he uses this way, that's fine."

Another Russian actress, 32-year-old Agniya Kuznetsova, chimed in with a blame-the-victim sentiment.

In reference to the scores of Hollywood actresses who've come forward with allegations against film directors and producers, she's quoted as telling Medusa "they got what they wanted."

"And actresses here [in Russia]," she continued, "are happy to agree to all sorts of propositions."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/russia-...ment-1.4418275

[CliffFletcher]

Yeah this is one of those issues where you kinda realize that as bad as it is in North America, at least it's better than in Russia. Or China. Or India, Egypt, Nigeria, Brazil, etc.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Meanwhile in Russia:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/russia-...ment-1.4418275

Okay, they have a very different culture in Russia which comes as a shock and surprise to absolutely no-one.

The thing is, you take that attitude and then you have women who have had this done to them and when they're in the position will do the same thing to men.

Thats not a solution or at least it shouldnt be. We should be aspiring to be better than that.

Oh Russia....not even once.

[rubecube]

Yeah, is anyone really surprised that Russians would have that attitude? Garbage country/society.

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Yeah, is anyone really surprised that Russians would have that attitude? Garbage country/society.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Yeah, is anyone really surprised that Russians would have that attitude? Garbage country/society.

The 'judges' of the lowest level --
So cruel, lofty, biased, base --
The fools that always drift to evil.
Before these ever-frightened hosts,
So vain, and cold, and full of vengeance,
The voice of truth is simply lost,
And helpless -- knowledge of the ages.
You're right, the ever-witty nations,
A call for freedom is asleep!


Pushkin

[troutman]

The Needle Vinyl Tavern in Edmonton has closed its doors after social media shaming.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmont...ment-1.4411922

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

The 'judges' of the lowest level --
So cruel, lofty, biased, base --
The fools that always drift to evil.
Before these ever-frightened hosts,
So vain, and cold, and full of vengeance,
The voice of truth is simply lost,
And helpless -- knowledge of the ages.
You're right, the ever-witty nations,
A call for freedom is asleep!


Pushkin

Yeah, yeah, and Tolstoy, Dostoyevsky, etc. It was mostly tongue-in-cheek, but there is a lot to dislike about modern day Russia and it goes beyond just Putin.

[longsuffering]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Yeah, is anyone really surprised that Russians would have that attitude? Garbage country/society.

Way to stereotype 146 million people. '

Rube' seems so appropriate.

Politics aside, the Russians I've met and worked along side have been some of the warmest, friendliest, most generous people I've ever met.

[JohnnyB]

Most of the Russians I know are well-educated and very bright people who have made their way out Russia through getting educational opportunities abroad. They have mostly told me they feel fortunate to be out of Russia and saw it as a place and a society to escape from. They don't plan on ever moving back.

Edit: Actually, they're nearly all women too. They've never said anything to me about sexual harassment in Russia though.

[Hemi-Cuda]

There really isn't anything redeemable about Russian culture today regarding women's rights, LBGT rights, or political freedom. That country has been a good 50 years behind western democracies since WWII

[CliffFletcher]

Russia really isn't any different from the rest of the world when it comes to these things. Does anyone believe it's any better for women, LGBT rights, etc. in China, India, Egypt, etc?

The West is head and shoulders above most of the rest of the world when it comes to liberalism and human rights.

[OMG!WTF!]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Russia really isn't any different from the rest of the world when it comes to these things. Does anyone believe it's any better for women, LGBT rights, etc. in China, India, Egypt, etc?

The West is head and shoulders above most of the rest of the world when it comes to liberalism and human rights.

I think Russians are a bit different. Most of the world has a religious motivation to deny rights to lgbtq communities...which is terrible. But Russians are just throwback neanderthals. They just like beating up gay people for fun and a vague sense of macho right...Chechnya in particular.

[81MC]

So it's offensive to typify blacks, whites, Jews, natives, Sikhs, Muslims, Christians, queers, men, and women. Unless they're Russian.

[Harry Lime]

[OMG!WTF!]

Originally Posted by 81MC

So it's offensive to typify blacks, whites, Jews, natives, Sikhs, Muslims, Christians, queers, men, and women. Unless they're Russian.

No not at all. We're talking about attitudes towards lgbtq communities and women. Russians are decidedly more violent and intolerant than other societies. It has nothing to do with the genetics of being Russian. So it's ok to say so. Right? Or no?

While India may have laws against homosexuality they are by and large more concerned with keeping the a/c on than wiping out a "plague" of gay people. At any given time and place about 35% of Indians disagree with homosexuality. It's roughly double that in mother Russia. If polls aren't your thing there plenty of evidence of Russian intolerance and acceptance of violence towards minorities.