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Old 08-19-2021, 10:56 PM   #1
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I saw a request for where you could find analytic charts for Flames players. I recall having seen them for Gaudreau and Tanev.

I thought maybe a thread to collect and discuss may be of interest

Here are some

Gaudreau - elite offensively, low QoT, average defensively



Tanev - extremely good defensively

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Old 08-19-2021, 10:57 PM   #2
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One from Mangiapane from before he signed his contract last off season

Notes that it was a very good value deal for the Flames

It gives an absolute value for WAR rather than percentile

https://twitter.com/user/status/1317145942412361728

He updated it when Mangiapane was tearing it up for Team Canada

https://twitter.com/user/status/1401629004260646915

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Jfresh posted this analysis after the Zadorov acquisition

https://twitter.com/user/status/1420393578308718597
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Eat bread is a stud, a little nervous to see his next contract
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He also put up a card for Pitlick

https://twitter.com/user/status/1418243148665561090
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Eat bread is a stud, a little nervous to see his next contract

Totally. I think he’s one player on which everyone can agree!

His give a crap meter is off the charts. I look forward to seeing him coming off of the confidence building Team Canada tourney
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Old 08-19-2021, 11:15 PM   #8
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Just copying this from my prospect posts as I like to give people for their work. The hockey community is truly a better place with their contributions. I obviously have an indefinite subscription but understand some people can't commit to the spend or don't have the interest, so am happy to take some requests within reason - may need a mod to chime on with what is permitted and what is not before I get myself in trouble.

JFresh and his partner TopDownHockey introduced their NHLe model this year. You will be familiar with the NHL player graphics they produce regularly. At $7/month the subscription is a no-brainer for any hockey fan. You can register here and support their work if you are interested: https://www.patreon.com/jfreshhockey
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There was another article taking a look at where it went wrong for West and North teams who didn’t make the playoffs

https://eprinkside.com/2021/05/14/no...h-investigates



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What Happened? With the exception of Gaudreau, the stars weren’t stars. Mark Giordano struggled significantly this season, and his pairing with Rasmus Andersson went from one of the league’s best to a total anchor that was far worse than any other on the team. Sean Monahan continued to underperform his contract and seemingly eternally assured spot with Gaudreau, and didn’t even score goals - the one thing he’s supposed to be able to do. Matthew Tkachuk had a down year by his standards. Jacob Markström, who was acquired to finally be the answer in net after years of instability, was actually well below-average. Johnny Hockey was great, Elias Lindholm is still an automatic goal machine, and the depth was mostly fine, but this team ended up where it belonged.

Bright Spots? Holy moly Christopher Tanev. Talk about proving people wrong.
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Interested to see some numbers from Lindholm.
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Old 08-19-2021, 11:26 PM   #11
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Markstrom bounces back to average (not even outstanding Vancouver levels) and the Flames are top 3 no matter what else happens IMO.

Flames D is better defensively too IMO...offensively not so much unless a couple guys step up
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Old 08-19-2021, 11:32 PM   #12
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Just copying this from my prospect posts as I like to give people for their work. The hockey community is truly a better place with their contributions. I obviously have an indefinite subscription but understand some people can't commit to the spend or don't have the interest, so am happy to take some requests within reason - may need a mod to chime on with what is permitted and what is not before I get myself in trouble.

JFresh and his partner TopDownHockey introduced their NHLe model this year. You will be familiar with the NHL player graphics they produce regularly. At $7/month the subscription is a no-brainer for any hockey fan. You can register here and support their work if you are interested: https://www.patreon.com/jfreshhockey


I agree with this. Jfresh does put forward some really interesting and easy to understand data

I assume you can get player cards and better data for any player if you subscribe.

I had just run across some reports here and there that were posted publicly and was thinking it’d be great to see them in one place

Hopefully that’s cool
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Markstrom bounces back to average (not even outstanding Vancouver levels) and the Flames are top 3 no matter what else happens IMO.

Flames D is better defensively too IMO...offensively not so much unless a couple guys step up
Flames D may be as good Defensively but worse off offeensively.
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Flames D may be as good Defensively but worse off offeensively.
Did you even read what I said?

I said they are better defensively but not offensively unless some guys step up
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How about some throwback Flames to get started? Data only goes back to 2007-08.

The Greatest Flame
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We traded Dion for who??? (Love you Stajan)
Spoiler!


The pride of Vegreville and most underrated Flame of all time?
Spoiler!


The Tunnel of Death (grabs popcorn)
Spoiler!


Norris-winning Mark Giordano
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Mikael "didn't breakout until his late 20s" Backlund
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Chris "first-pairing defenceman" Butler
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Nigel Dawes, victim of one of the strangest buyouts of the cap era
Spoiler!


The Dustin Boyd Wars. What a time.
Spoiler!


The Hale Storm himself (that picture, haha!)
Spoiler!
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I actually liked Nigel Dawes
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What I like about these charts is that they seem to mostly match the eye test
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Did you even read what I said?

I said they are better defensively but not offensively unless some guys step up
My bad, thought you meant the forward group needed a few guys to step up, not sure how I read it that way.
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Can we post Duncan Keith again just for fun?
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Can we post Duncan Keith again just for fun?
Belongs in the E=NG thread I think
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