Wendy's to experiment with "surge pricing" in peak hours

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Well Wendy's is 5 stars compared to the kyit they serve at McDonald's.

2 Jr Cheeseburger deluxes and a baked potato for $3.50. Can't be that pricing if you are a Uni student.

What year is that?

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by AFireInside

Now add in Vacation time and benefits. Swedish workers are required to take 25 paid vacation days per year.

Why not look at Denmark? 22/hr with 6 weeks of vacation and their big macs cost the same .


Denmark : 5.69
Canada : 5.56

Australia has a minimum wage of $23 average McDonald's worker wage is near or over $24/hr. So over $20 cad, with 4 weeks of vacation, big macs are cheaper.

Australia :5.07
Canada : 5.56

Higher base pay but also higher income tax and consumption tax. At the end of the day what is the difference in terms of purchasing power? Making more money is great when it doesn't end up in the government's pocket.

[you&me]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Really? Because a single customer’s order will pay for a one fast food worker’s salary for the hour. Simplified, but a few orders and you’ve covered your employee costs for the day.

That's not remotely true.

One order - $15 (maybe)
Fast food worker's salary for the hour - $15 (at least)

Harry Lime was probably more on the right track:

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

... To justify a $1 raise across the whole store, for all employees, you would basically need one more customer through the door an hour.

Wendy's can hit a living wage in Calgary for their employees, if they could draw an extra five customers an hour, but judging from this thread and thoughts on food quality there, it's never going to happen.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by you&me

That's not remotely true.

One order - $15 (maybe)
Fast food worker's salary for the hour - $15 (at least)

?? That’s basically what I said.

[you&me]

Originally Posted by Wormius

?? That’s basically what I said.

It is.

That's the point... that's not how it works.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Well Wendy's is 5 stars compared to the kyit they serve at McDonald's.

2 Jr Cheeseburger deluxes and a baked potato for $3.50. Can't be that pricing if you are a Uni student.

Originally Posted by Wormius

What year is that?

Haha, totally. What a weird claim.

Just checked pricing now. One Jr. Cheeseburger is $2.49, so you're at $4.98 for the two burgers right away. Plain baked potato is $2.39. Johnny's meal, with GST, is $7.74. That's 121% more than he claimed.

I know it's not a big deal, but I'm getting so sick of having to fact check the most basic things. Like, Johnny, WTF? Why would you be so weird and careless and have just made up a number that was wildly wrong? Or were you just pretending whatever you paid in, like, 1997 was still relevant today?

Super annoying.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Wormius

What year is that?

He was mentioning back in 90s.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by AFireInside

Now add in Vacation time and benefits. Swedish workers are required to take 25 paid vacation days per year.

Why not look at Denmark? 22/hr with 6 weeks of vacation and their big macs cost the same .


Denmark : 5.69
Canada : 5.56

Australia has a minimum wage of $23 average McDonald's worker wage is near or over $24/hr. So over $20 cad, with 4 weeks of vacation, big macs are cheaper.

Australia :5.07
Canada : 5.56

You’re moving the goalposts. We were talking about prices and salary.

If we want more context, let’s include tax as well. That burger in Denmark will have a 25 per cent VAT added on top, compared to Canada’s 5 per cent. I’d wager your Danish McDonald’s worker pays higher income and payroll tax than their Canadian counterpart as well.

And it’s safe to assume the high input cost at Danish McDonald’s is why they have only one McDonald’s per 62k people, compared with one per 27k people in Canada. Presumably, they only operate in very high-demand, high-volume locations.

In our market economy, higher wages for those in service industry jobs will mean some combination of higher prices, increased automation, and reductions in locations (and jobs). When input costs go up, companies don’t just continue to operate as normal but with reduced profit. That’s not the way markets work.

I’m okay with prices at fast food places, grocery stores, travel and hospitality, etc. going up as wages in those industries have increased in recent years. As a middle-class person, why shouldn’t I contribute my share to better wages for the working class? You don’t get to be a more egalitarian society without making collective sacrifices.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Haha, totally. What a weird claim.

Just checked pricing now. One Jr. Cheeseburger is $2.49, so you're at $4.98 for the two burgers right away. Plain baked potato is $2.39. Johnny's meal, with GST, is $7.74. That's 121% more than he claimed.

I know it's not a big deal, but I'm getting so sick of having to fact check the most basic things. Like, Johnny, WTF? Why would you be so weird and careless and have just made up a number that was wildly wrong? Or were you just pretending whatever you paid in, like, 1997 was still relevant today?

Super annoying.

lol it was numbers from 1997.... I should have been more clear as he was mentioning back in the 90s.

Besides come on. Where can you get a Burger or a baked potato for $.99?

but sorry it took 60 seconds out of your day to look up a Wendy's menu! hahahahaha

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

He was mentioning back in 90s.

Fair enough, but you were kind of talking present-tense, which is what I think threw us off.

[Bongo]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Happy hour and surge pricing are not really the same thing though. Surge pricing would be you showing up at your favorite pub to watch a Flames game, find out it is packed and that they have raised pint prices up to $15 instead of $10.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, let's not give local pubs any ideas here.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Fair enough, but you were kind of talking present-tense, which is what I think threw us off.

Oh for sure. I was talking to a student while typing that. hahahaha

It was in response to his

Burgers were good but that place was always overpriced (in comparison to the other big fast food burger chains), even back in the 90s.

So $3.50 for a meal that was halfway healthy and kinda filling was pretty good. Or you could swap out the potato and get the side caesar salad for $.50 cents more.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

lol it was numbers from 1997.... I should have been more clear as he was mentioning back in the 90s.

Besides come on. Where can you get a Burger or a baked potato for $.99?

but sorry it took 60 seconds out of your day to look up a Wendy's menu! hahahahaha

Okay, I gotcha. Sorry

I still hope I'll see $0.59 burgers at McD's, but I guess that was a good 25 years ago.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Okay, I gotcha. Sorry

I still hope I'll see $0.59 burgers at McD's, but I guess that was a good 25 years ago.

I remember being in Junior High when McDonald's would have cheeseburger sales at $0.25 with no limit. One of my buddies lived down the street from a McDonald's and a bunch of us would go and order a huge pile of them. We'd easily down 10 or 12 per person.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Okay, I gotcha. Sorry

I still hope I'll see $0.59 burgers at McD's, but I guess that was a good 25 years ago.

LOL. umm no apology necessary.

but still even at .25 cents you don't want to eat that crap. haha ketchup, mustard and onions smaller than specks of rice! hahaha

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Okay, I gotcha. Sorry

I still hope I'll see $0.59 burgers at McD's, but I guess that was a good 25 years ago.

You're more likely to see $59 burgers.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

LOL. umm no apology necessary.

but still even at .25 cents you don't want to eat that crap. haha ketchup, mustard and onions smaller than specks of rice! hahaha

Correction, they're "recons" not onions hah. I used to work there. They are powdered and you add water to "reconstitute" them. Real onions were reserved for quarter pounders.

[Sliver]

Oh and a dude I worked with popped a blister on his finger. He shoved the weeping sore into the recons to sooth it as they were nice and cold.

Fkn gross, eh.

[fotze2]

Jr. Ham Dlx. were $0.99 forever. I think Cheese was $1.29.

I totally read it like he was talking about back then.

My buddy worked at the Braeside Pizza Hut. They would let him close the place (idiots). Free beers and Supreme personal pies for days, until he got fired.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by fotze2

Jr. Ham Dlx. were $0.99 forever. I think Cheese was $1.29.

I totally read it like he was talking about back then.

Pipe down, rub-a-dub.